Mlk day !!!

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by pb4ugo

Unfortunately, that's not true. Inventory taxes, equipment taxes, hell even my business license could be considered a tax.

So true, small business takes it where the sun don't shine... If were making money they want it, if we aren't they still want their "fees" and if we tank, oh well, no big loss...

The gov't needs to start realizing that we are sick of their stupid spending. If they want to "stimulate" the economy they can give 100% tax returns and let the various higher ups work for free this coming year... Including Obama. And no special summit meeting or any other crap. No pointless "helping" the rest of the world... Or they could make it all back by hitting china with crippling import tariffs. No way china could do anything, hell we already owe them tons of money and they need us to keep buying so that they can continue their industrial revolution... Best to keep them hungry for as long as possible.

I hope we all realize that we now have too many people on the planet... Time to stop the worthless breeding... Not enough to go round. But the pope will never let that happen... Theres your 21st century hitler, right there. Done more damage to mankind that any other figurehead in history. And if you don't agree I don't care, I'm right on this one.

[Sower]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

I hope we all realize that we now have too many people on the planet... Time to stop the worthless breeding... Not enough to go round. But the pope will never let that happen... Theres your 21st century hitler, right there. Done more damage to mankind that any other figurehead in history. And if you don't agree I don't care, I'm right on this one.

I know we have some major differences of opinion linc, but despite all of them I actually like you and a lot of what you say. On this . . . I can't just sit back.

I have no problem with people having opinions, but you're totally stepping over the line there. This is not the place to call the leader of another religion "Hitler". That is totally outrageous and freaking pisses me off. Not only am I Catholic, I would say that the Pope has done more for humanity than most other leaders in the world.

Dude, you can say all kinds of stuff and I'm cool with turning the other cheek but bashing my religion like that is crazy and you can't expect me to just not say anytyhing. Totally inapropriate, selfish, and remedial. You have no business to post that kind of crap.

[Sower]

One more think limpnic . . . if you want to make a statement like that you better back it up with something factual. You want a freakin' debate on this, then bring it.

Why not start throwing racial slurs around too while you're at it? How about mentally handicapped people? Anything against them? Go for it - what's stopping you?

Alright, I better get out of here before I say any more. I already know I've said too much.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by Sower

One more think limpnic . . . if you want to make a statement like that you better back it up with something factual. You want a freakin' debate on this, then bring it.

Why not start throwing racial slurs around too while you're at it? How about mentally handicapped people? Anything against them? Go for it - what's stopping you?

Alright, I better get out of here before I say any more. I already know I've said too much.

I'm not going to justify what linc said, he'll have to speak for himself on that, but if you'd like factual evidence of wrong doings of the Chatholic Church, just let me know and I can send you a whole laundry list.
Burning People at the stake for being a herotic is just one of many many many examples.
I don't think there is a perfect Church out there. How can there be, they are run by people and people are not perfect (even though some of us think we are).
Linc's anaology was an exageration but the difference between America and other countries is we still have the freedom of speach.

[Sower]

Originally Posted by starscream

I'm not going to justify what linc said, he'll have to speak for himself on that, but if you'd like factual evidence of wrong doings of the Chatholic Church, just let me know and I can send you a whole laundry list.
Burning People at the stake for being a herotic is just one of many many many examples.
I don't think there is a perfect Church out there. How can there be, they are run by people and people are not perfect (even though some of us think we are).
Linc's anaology was an exageration but the difference between America and other countries is we still have the freedom of speach.

First off, you're right. The Catholic Church - or better stated, the people in the Catholic Church . . . have committed many attorcities. I'm not here to discuss that, and in all reality I shouldn't have asked for any examples. I'm well aware of them and feel no need to discuss them.

Beyond that though, his statement was about the 21st century - nothing else. If not for JP II working with Reagan to oppose communism, this world could be much different today.

My biggest problem with his statement was that it was blatantly inflamatory, egotistic, and flat out bashed my religion. I really don't care if he feels that way - that's his business. But this forum has usually been more respectful of other people's religious choices. I'm actually surprised nobody else said anything.

I did find it interesting though that on one hand the Pope is being called Hitler, and at the same time the person making that charge is talking about controlling the population and spewing hate about a religion. Kind of ironic really.

[Sower]

Oh, one more thing . . . yes, we have freedom of speech, but we should practice restraint and respect for other people too. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean you should say it.

I'm free to walk down the street and call obese people fat or whatever I want - probably not a good idea though if I have any respect for them.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by Sower

Oh, one more thing . . . yes, we have freedom of speech, but we should practice restraint and respect for other people too. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean you should say it.

I'm free to walk down the street and call obese people fat or whatever I want - probably not a good idea though if I have any respect for them.

I see your point and as I said before, the remark was not exactly politically correct but your analogy is misguided. Noone will disagree that unwarranted disrespectful remarks about a person are unfair, but expressing your feelings about a person due to their actions or concequences from their influence, are for the better part, fair game. If you disagree with someone's point of view thats fine but I'd suggest taking it with a grain of salt. Kind of like a tequila shot... Unless your not 21 yet, as I'm not advocating drinking for minors