Speed Passion VS Mamba Monster

[lutach]

Originally Posted by starscream

Wow, Do you guys work for Castle or what?
Has anyone here actually owned or run the Speed Passion Esc? If not, then your opinion doesn't hold much water...

I've owned MANY ESC's including the Novak HV, MMM and the Speed Passion ESC's.

The Speed Passion is my favorite so far. This Esc is provided by a US distributor so you do NOT have to send it to China for repairs. It comes with a hand held program module with LCD display and can be programed and updated via the PC just like the MMM or the RX8. The SP Esc handles 4S like nobodies business and will run sensored OR sensorless motors.

My 2 cents... the Speed Passion Esc has more features than any other Esc on the market today so it's the best bang for your buck for 4S racing.

The best bang for your buck would be the manufacturers version, the Hobbywing 80A 4S, so basically you just wasted some $$$, but it's your money. The 150A 6S version is another option and it still is cheaper then the Speed Passion branded 4S only ESC. The RX8, MMM and the Hobbywing 150A 6S will also handle 4S lipos. Now the repair thing, even though Speed Pasion is distributed in the US and like you said the ESC doesn't need to be sent to China by the consumer, but all the defective ESC still goes back to China for repair or replacement.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lutach

The best bang for your buck would be the manufacturers version, the Hobbywing 80A 4S, so basically you just wasted some $$$, but it's your money. The 150A 6S version is another option and it still is cheaper then the Speed Passion branded 4S only ESC. The RX8, MMM and the Hobbywing 150A 6S will also handle 4S lipos. Now the repair thing, even though Speed Pasion is distributed in the US and like you said the ESC doesn't need to be sent to China by the consumer, but all the defective ESC still goes back to China for repair or replacement.

Let's compare apples to apples. The 80A "Manufacturers version" doesn't have the same specs as the SP Esc and it doesn't come with the LCD programer. I'd rather spend some extra money and not have to deal with sending repairs to China and I "feel" better knowing I'm dealing with a US dealer who will take care of warranties. With that said, the SP Esc is a better bang for your buck in my book. If you want to roll the dice and deal with China, bye all means have at it.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by starscream

Let's compare apples to apples. The 80A "Manufacturers version" doesn't have the same specs as the SP Esc and it doesn't come with the LCD programer. I'd rather spend some extra money and not have to deal with sending repairs to China and I "feel" better knowing I'm dealing with a US dealer who will take care of warranties. With that said, the SP Esc is a better bang for your buck in my book. If you want to roll the dice and deal with China, bye all means have at it.

No wonder Schumacher can charge what they do, they have people like you baking them up. Man get your facts straight. Schumacher will eventually send the ESCs to China anyways. I can have Hobbywing make my own ESC too and over rate them a little to have people like you fall for it.

[littlegiant]

Is it true that the MMM is around 5mph slower than the HW150A esc on the same setup?

Anyway to fix it?

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by littlegiant

Is it true that the MMM is around 5mph slower than the HW150A esc on the same setup?

Anyway to fix it?

Up the timing?

As far as speed controls go, the MMM can handle 6s lipo so that makes it a better esc for MT and truggy. If you only plan to run 4s the Sp may have some advantages, but not enough to account for the fact it cannot handle higher voltage. Kind of a one trick pony IMO... I do not race so I guess I may be a bit biased on equipment usage. The MMM is more versatile, and looks to be a bit smaller too.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Up the timing?

As far as speed controls go, the MMM can handle 6s lipo so that makes it a better esc for MT and truggy. If you only plan to run 4s the Sp may have some advantages, but not enough to account for the fact it cannot handle higher voltage. Kind of a one trick pony IMO... I do not race so I guess I may be a bit biased on equipment usage. The MMM is more versatile, and looks to be a bit smaller too.

If it were up to me, I'd run 8S but the MMM won't handle it.
4S is a must for racing, basically forced on us by lame rules but a rule none the less. The MMM does not run sensors so it could also be considered a one trick pony.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lutach

No wonder Schumacher can charge what they do, they have people like you baking them up. Man get your facts straight. Schumacher will eventually send the ESCs to China anyways. I can have Hobbywing make my own ESC too and over rate them a little to have people like you fall for it.

It's obvious you don't know who you're talking to but in any case berating someone isn't going to change their mind. There are thousands of companies that sell items that are licensed and re-badged as their own product.
Why not take it a step further and forgoe RCM and all other retailers and just buy straight from the manufacturer. Hell, if it were up to guys like you, there would be no RCM or other popular retailers out there.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by starscream

It's obvious you don't know who you're talking to but in any case berating someone isn't going to change their mind. There are thousands of companies that sell items that are licensed and re-badged as their own product.
Why not take it a step further and forgoe RCM and all other retailers and just buy straight from the manufacturer. Hell, if it were up to guys like you, there would be no RCM or other popular retailers out there.

So let me guess, were you the one who helped Hobbywing with their products, no. Speed Passion is only a distributor who placed the 2000pcs. minimum order to get it branded and Schumacher instead of going straight to the source, they probably signed a deal with Speed Passion and now they have to charge more for the same product to justify a good profit. Guys like me are doing good things for this hobby and more will come. I'm sure when I get my new ESC done, I'll show it to Mike and see if he wants he own RCM ESC. If you like to spend more on a re-badged product, go for it.

So, please tell me all who am I talking to? What have you done for this hobby that makes you so special. To me you're just another guy who wasted money by following the lies the Shawn Palmer brought to a good company. You should've seen how he started making false specs on the Speed Passion (Hobbywing) stuff after I stepped in. So until Speed Passion comes out with the 6S 150A version then you can compare it with the Mamba Monster, but if the 4S 80A version is priced the way it is, then the 6S will be like $300 and I hope you get one so we can have a good laugh.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lutach

So let me guess, were you the one who helped Hobbywing with their products, no. Speed Passion is only a distributor who placed the 2000pcs. minimum order to get it branded and Schumacher instead of going straight to the source, they probably signed a deal with Speed Passion and now they have to charge more for the same product to justify a good profit. Guys like me are doing good things for this hobby and more will come. I'm sure when I get my new ESC done, I'll show it to Mike and see if he wants he own RCM ESC. If you like to spend more on a re-badged product, go for it.

So, please tell me all who am I talking to? What have you done for this hobby that makes you so special. To me you're just another guy who wasted money by following the lies the Shawn Palmer brought to a good company. You should've seen how he started making false specs on the Speed Passion (Hobbywing) stuff after I stepped in. So until Speed Passion comes out with the 6S 150A version then you can compare it with the Mamba Monster, but if the 4S 80A version is priced the way it is, then the 6S will be like $300 and I hope you get one so we can have a good laugh.

Who am I, well I'm starscream... obviously
Sorry to hear you have personal reasons to hate on the SP ESC but I suggest you think about showing more respect for others. Your berating and rants just make you look bad.
Maybe thats why your ESC endeavors haven't panned out like you've planned.
Just a thought

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by starscream

Who am I, well I'm starscream... obviously

So seriously, tell us who you are. I know lutach, his real name is Luciano and he is from Brasil originally.

Lincpimp is James and he is from the UK originally.

My name is Brian and am from Texas.

I could go on further but you get the point. Lutach has been very forthcoming about who he is and where he stands. Shouldn't you do the same? It's obvious you have some kind of iron in this fire, so why not just by forthcoming and not hide behind the internet.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by starscream

Who am I, well I'm starscream... obviously
Sorry to hear you have personal reasons to hate on the SP ESC but I suggest you think about showing more respect for others. Your berating and rants just make you look bad.
Maybe thats why your ESC endeavors haven't panned out like you've planned.
Just a thought

Unlike other places, I like to make sure what I bring to the market will be at it's best performance, so I take my time and don't rush into things like other places do. I have nothing against SP, but I don't like what Shawn (Maybe it's Schumacher, so who knows) is doing by making false specs just to make it look like it's better when it's the same exact product.