Speed Passion VS Mamba Monster

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lutach

No wonder Schumacher can charge what they do, they have people like you baking them up. Man get your facts straight. Schumacher will eventually send the ESCs to China anyways. I can have Hobbywing make my own ESC too and over rate them a little to have people like you fall for it.

It's obvious you don't know who you're talking to but in any case berating someone isn't going to change their mind. There are thousands of companies that sell items that are licensed and re-badged as their own product.
Why not take it a step further and forgoe RCM and all other retailers and just buy straight from the manufacturer. Hell, if it were up to guys like you, there would be no RCM or other popular retailers out there.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by starscream

It's obvious you don't know who you're talking to but in any case berating someone isn't going to change their mind. There are thousands of companies that sell items that are licensed and re-badged as their own product.
Why not take it a step further and forgoe RCM and all other retailers and just buy straight from the manufacturer. Hell, if it were up to guys like you, there would be no RCM or other popular retailers out there.

So let me guess, were you the one who helped Hobbywing with their products, no. Speed Passion is only a distributor who placed the 2000pcs. minimum order to get it branded and Schumacher instead of going straight to the source, they probably signed a deal with Speed Passion and now they have to charge more for the same product to justify a good profit. Guys like me are doing good things for this hobby and more will come. I'm sure when I get my new ESC done, I'll show it to Mike and see if he wants he own RCM ESC. If you like to spend more on a re-badged product, go for it.

So, please tell me all who am I talking to? What have you done for this hobby that makes you so special. To me you're just another guy who wasted money by following the lies the Shawn Palmer brought to a good company. You should've seen how he started making false specs on the Speed Passion (Hobbywing) stuff after I stepped in. So until Speed Passion comes out with the 6S 150A version then you can compare it with the Mamba Monster, but if the 4S 80A version is priced the way it is, then the 6S will be like $300 and I hope you get one so we can have a good laugh.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lutach

So let me guess, were you the one who helped Hobbywing with their products, no. Speed Passion is only a distributor who placed the 2000pcs. minimum order to get it branded and Schumacher instead of going straight to the source, they probably signed a deal with Speed Passion and now they have to charge more for the same product to justify a good profit. Guys like me are doing good things for this hobby and more will come. I'm sure when I get my new ESC done, I'll show it to Mike and see if he wants he own RCM ESC. If you like to spend more on a re-badged product, go for it.

So, please tell me all who am I talking to? What have you done for this hobby that makes you so special. To me you're just another guy who wasted money by following the lies the Shawn Palmer brought to a good company. You should've seen how he started making false specs on the Speed Passion (Hobbywing) stuff after I stepped in. So until Speed Passion comes out with the 6S 150A version then you can compare it with the Mamba Monster, but if the 4S 80A version is priced the way it is, then the 6S will be like $300 and I hope you get one so we can have a good laugh.

Who am I, well I'm starscream... obviously
Sorry to hear you have personal reasons to hate on the SP ESC but I suggest you think about showing more respect for others. Your berating and rants just make you look bad.
Maybe thats why your ESC endeavors haven't panned out like you've planned.
Just a thought

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by starscream

Who am I, well I'm starscream... obviously

So seriously, tell us who you are. I know lutach, his real name is Luciano and he is from Brasil originally.

Lincpimp is James and he is from the UK originally.

My name is Brian and am from Texas.

I could go on further but you get the point. Lutach has been very forthcoming about who he is and where he stands. Shouldn't you do the same? It's obvious you have some kind of iron in this fire, so why not just by forthcoming and not hide behind the internet.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

So seriously, tell us who you are. I know lutach, his real name is Luciano and he is from Brasil originally.

Lincpimp is James and he is from the UK originally.

My name is Brian and am from Texas.

I could go on further but you get the point. Lutach has been very forthcoming about who he is and where he stands. Shouldn't you do the same? It's obvious you have some kind of iron in this fire, so why not just by forthcoming and not hide behind the internet.

Hey Brian,
James is the name, RC is the game.
I've been around RCM from very early on. Dafni and I posted our Revo conversions at the same time. His was better looking but mine had a lower CG

Lincpimp knows who I am and I have firsthand knowledge of why he doesn't like maxamps batteries.

I don't post here for posting sake and I don't have a personal agenda. I post information that is factually sound and hopefully helpful. I have been fortunate to be one of the first to try different setups and I have no problems reporting what I experience.

I think anyones iron will get hot if they are publically berated and shown no respect. I don't take others opinions to heart but I won't put up with anyone making personal attacks.

Luciano can say what he wants about SP Esc's or anything else RC but if he’s inclined to make it personal, he better know who he's dealing with before he spouts out some disingenuous rhetoric.

[littlegiant]

Originally Posted by starscream

Hey Brian,
James is the name, RC is the game.
I've been around RCM from very early on. Dafni and I posted our Revo conversions at the same time. His was better looking but mine had a lower CG

Lincpimp knows who I am and I have firsthand knowledge of why he doesn't like maxamps batteries.

I don't post here for posting sake and I don't have a personal agenda. I post information that is factually sound and hopefully helpful. I have been fortunate to be one of the first to try different setups and I have no problems reporting what I experience.

I think anyones iron will get hot if they are publically berated and shown no respect. I don't take others opinions to heart but I won't put up with anyone making personal attacks.

Luciano can say what he wants about SP Esc's or anything else RC but if he’s inclined to make it personal, he better know who he's dealing with before he spouts out some disingenuous rhetoric.

Hi, I am thinking of getting a new esc. Can u list the pros of SP escs over the MMM? I am open to all opinions because I don't own any of the escs. Thanks in advance.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by littlegiant

Hi, I am thinking of getting a new esc. Can u list the pros of SP escs over the MMM? I am open to all opinions because I don't own any of the escs. Thanks in advance.

If you are looking to use a sensored 4S motor than the SP is a good choice.

Both ESC Prices are comparable
Both ESC PC programming and updates are comparable

MMM Pro's over SP
- MMM Can handle up to 6S Lipo VS SP 4S Lipo max
- MMM has a slightly smaller footprint
- MMM has a 5AMP BEC vs SP 3AMP BEC (this won't be an issue unless you plan to run some major current drawing servo's)

SP Pro's over MMM
- SP runs both sensored & sensorless motors (Sensored in dual mode)
- SP comes with a hand held programmer that you can use anywhere without the need of hauling around a laptop
- SP On/Off switch is FAR superior to the MMM switch. The MMM power switch is notorious for switching off when the vehicle takes a hard hit. This has happened to me numerous times and I finally shoegoo'd my MMM switch to the On position. This obviously isn't a hard selling point but a small notch in the belt for the SP.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by starscream

Lincpimp knows who I am and I have firsthand knowledge of why he doesn't like maxamps batteries.

I remember that! Going back a bit, at least 2 years, huh?!

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

I remember that! Going back a bit, at least 2 years, huh?!

Ya, that was quite a while ago. Time really flies.
I ended up buying another crt.5 and then sold it so I could get a RC10 T4

I really think they need a 12 step program for RC

You have a good point about crawlers. It's a must to have a good motor though. I'm sure a HV or purple feigao motor will have cogging issues.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by starscream

Luciano can say what he wants about SP Esc's or anything else RC but if he’s inclined to make it personal, he better know who he's dealing with before he spouts out some disingenuous rhetoric.

Just trying to let you know the best bang for you buck, but to me it seemed like you're a SP fan. How are you liking you LCD handheld programmer? You know who gave Hobbywing the idea? You're chatting with him right now. Just to get something straight, I don't work for Castle and yes I have a Hobbywing Xerun 120A (SP GT Pro) and was the first one to test one out for Hobbywing to make sure everything was working fine. I was the first to hook it up to a Novak HV motor and run it with 4S lipos a few times in my TC3T. So best bang for your buck is the Hobbywing 80A 4S which Mike sells for less then half the price of the SP version or you can get the 150A 6S which is still cheaper. I just didn't like how you first posted here and it seemed like a personal attack on the ones who posted before.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lutach

Just trying to let you know the best bang for you buck, but to me it seemed like you're a SP fan. How are you liking you LCD handheld programmer? You know who gave Hobbywing the idea? You're chatting with him right now. Just to get something straight, I don't work for Castle and yes I have a Hobbywing Xerun 120A (SP GT Pro) and was the first one to test one out for Hobbywing to make sure everything was working fine. I was the first to hook it up to a Novak HV motor and run it with 4S lipos a few times in my TC3T. So best bang for your buck is the Hobbywing 80A 4S which Mike sells for less then half the price of the SP version or you can get the 150A 6S which is still cheaper. I just didn't like how you first posted here and it seemed like a personal attack on the ones who posted before.

I knew about the HW ezrun esc's before I purchased the SP. I purchased the SP because I prefer dealing with a US distributor. We can agree to disagree about the best bang for your buck here.
For me, the juries out until I get my hands on the RX8.

P.S.
Yes I like the LCD programmer very much. Thanks for asking...
People have been asking for hand held programmers a long time. It's nice to see a company finally listen to what the public wants.
It's too bad you don't work for Castle because they could use some of your insight

[Dafni]

Originally Posted by starscream

Hey Brian,
James is the name, RC is the game.
I've been around RCM from very early on. Dafni and I posted our Revo conversions at the same time. His was better looking but mine had a lower CG

Hey, do you want to start a forum fight with me?

just kidding

those were the days, eh? Less smart guys around back then...

[lutach]

Originally Posted by starscream

Who am I, well I'm starscream... obviously
Sorry to hear you have personal reasons to hate on the SP ESC but I suggest you think about showing more respect for others. Your berating and rants just make you look bad.
Maybe thats why your ESC endeavors haven't panned out like you've planned.
Just a thought

Unlike other places, I like to make sure what I bring to the market will be at it's best performance, so I take my time and don't rush into things like other places do. I have nothing against SP, but I don't like what Shawn (Maybe it's Schumacher, so who knows) is doing by making false specs just to make it look like it's better when it's the same exact product.