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05.19.2009, 12:52 PM

Well I plan on running Big Joe's 40 series as well, but I'm not sure if even going to attempt 6S power now and I've always kept my gearing 44/20 and i've leaned the power on the CC link and im running 28C SMC LiPos. Will I be ok?

Oh, and that "sock" is a special designed filter that MANY people uses without issues on their Baja's, so I fail to see how that could be even considered a possible cause of the fire

http://outerwears.com/categories.asp?cat=11441

And Jesus, dont' shoot the messenger. I'm a first time customer to CC, noobie to the brushless AND LiPo world who also spent ALOT of money on his Flux that he wants to protect. So i'm CONCERNED CUSTOMER and wanna prevent a tragedy like this so i'm asking the head hancho's themselves on who/what is at fault here so I don't become another failed/expensive noob RC statistic

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05.19.2009, 01:17 PM

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Well I plan on running Big Joe's 40 series as well, but I'm not sure if even going to attempt 6S power now and I've always kept my gearing 44/20 and i've leaned the power on the CC link and im running 28C SMC LiPos. Will I be ok?

Oh, and that "sock" is a special designed filter that MANY people uses without issues on their Baja's, so I fail to see how that could be even considered a possible cause of the fire

http://outerwears.com/categories.asp?cat=11441

And Jesus, dont' shoot the messenger. I'm a first time customer to CC, noobie to the brushless AND LiPo world who also spent ALOT of money on his Flux that he wants to protect. So i'm CONCERNED CUSTOMER and wanna prevent a tragedy like this so i'm asking the head hancho's themselves on who/what is at fault here so I don't become another failed/expensive noob RC statistic
6s lipo on the Savage really isn't for bashing if you ask me. 4s to 5s is best. If you gear down to compensate for the added weight and rotating mass it'll be fine. I run a MMM with an 80mm MedUsa in a ~16 pound Muggy and it's fine because I gear to compensate for the massive tires and the weight of the thing.

Outerwears on the Baja and the MMM are different. The Baja's flywheel is able to pull air through the filter very easily, the tiny fan on the MMM would have a harder time plus the filter will hold heat in.

So far it seems to me that you've been running yours within the safe limits of the power system and it has been fine. Running 6s with even stock gearing with wheels/tires that weigh 1+ pounds each is what will kill your ESC, Motor, and batteries.


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6s lipo on the Savage really isn't for bashing if you ask me. 4s to 5s is best. If you gear down to compensate for the added weight and rotating mass it'll be fine. I run a MMM with an 80mm MedUsa in a ~16 pound Muggy and it's fine because I gear to compensate for the massive tires and the weight of the thing.

Outerwears on the Baja and the MMM are different. The Baja's flywheel is able to pull air through the filter very easily, the tiny fan on the MMM would have a harder time plus the filter will hold heat in.

So far it seems to me that you've been running yours within the safe limits of the power system and it has been fine. Running 6s with even stock gearing with wheels/tires that weigh 1+ pounds each is what will kill your ESC, Motor, and batteries.
So when I go to 40 series and maybe 6S, should I drop to 18 pinion?
   
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05.19.2009, 01:20 PM

try 18 tooth lowest timing,punch at 60% more airflow and check the temps


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So when I go to 40 series and maybe 6S, should I drop to 18 pinion?
What's stock pinion, 20T? I'd use BrianG's calculator and set a target speed of 35-40 MPH and measure your temps often. If your temps look OK then you can bump the pinion up a little.


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What's stock pinion, 20T? I'd use BrianG's calculator and set a target speed of 35-40 MPH and measure your temps often. If your temps look OK then you can bump the pinion up a little.
Yah, its 44/20T. What calculator?
   
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Yah, its 44/20T. What calculator?
http://www.scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/_solver.html

I'm not sure that you really need a 12T pinion, perhaps a 15T to start with.


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05.19.2009, 06:38 PM

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http://www.scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/_solver.html

I'm not sure that you really need a 12T pinion, perhaps a 15T to start with.
Good god, a freaking 15T pinion just for getting bigger tires? Thats rediculous.
   
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