To 40 series or not to 40 series, that is the question

...recently the super-store (relative i know) Cost-Co came to Japan and now we have the pleasure of using an American fabric-softener...BIG green bottle (why is everything in America so BIG?) but it smells great :D The bottle makes for a great kiddie shovel after its emptytoo :D Easy carrying handle :D

...ok...Question...

If you had the choice of 40 series OR Baja 5B wheels on Savage or an Emaxx for example, drivetrain issues aside, which would you choose and why?

...I am thinking Baja...Baja fronts dont seem TOO heavy at all...the bigger rim with the shorter sidewall will makes things nice and smooth too IMO...Thoughts>?

[Gdot]

Whats the weight of those baja wheels and tires? must be less than a big joe

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Finnster

wtf?

there's a thought :)

Originally Posted by bdebde

My mom always used tide and now I do too

Originally Posted by BitHed

...recently the super-store (relative i know) Cost-Co came to Japan and now we have the pleasure of using an American fabric-softener...BIG green bottle (why is everything in America so BIG?) but it smells great :D The bottle makes for a great kiddie shovel after its empty too :D Easy carrying handle :D

Ok, so we have

1 vote for Tide

1 vote for Big Green Bottle

And 1 vote for wtf (not sure what brand that is?)

Also, what is a kiddie shovel? Something you sue to bury kids with?

[Joey]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Ok, so we have

1 vote for Tide

1 vote for Big Green Bottle

And 1 vote for wtf (not sure what brand that is?)

Also, what is a kiddie shovel? Something you sue to bury kids with?

Wow, talk about hijacking a thread!

America DOES have that "bigger is better" attitude, dont we... funny to hear that because I never really think of it.

:BACK ON TOPIC: I personally would not go with either 40 series or baja... just regular old standard MT rims or LPR. Seem lightest and just overall best to me.

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Also, what is a kiddie shovel? Something you use
to bury kids with?

(...BitHed mumbles...) these bloody young fellas without their own kids...Cant put up with them and your not allowed to shoot them...

...a kiddie shovel is something that gets thrown in a bag for the 2 year old to use in the sand pit / box at the local park...he can dig up things like dolly heads, cigarette butts and pussy poo...THATS when you need the bucket of Tide ;) We had to ban Baby Bit from using the old garden fork in the playground after he started to pretend he was Bruce Lee with it

...to 40 or to Baja...That is the new question...

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Ok, so we have

1 vote for Tide

1 vote for Big Green Bottle

And 1 vote for wtf (not sure what brand that is?)

Also, what is a kiddie shovel? Something you sue to bury kids with?

IDK, its that sh!t you get from Amway. I have like 125lbs of the stuff.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by BitHed

(...BitHed mumbles...) these bloody young fellas without their own kids...Cant put up with them and your not allowed to shoot them...

...a kiddie shovel is something that gets thrown in a bag for the 2 year old to use in the sand pit / box at the local park...he can dig up things like dolly heads, cigarette butts and pussy poo...THATS when you need the bucket of Tide ;) We had to ban Baby Bit from using the old garden fork in the playground after he started to pretend he was Bruce Lee with it

Yeah, yeah, I do not have any kids yet... Please do not shoot me! I figured the kiddie shovel was what you described, but I figured that i would ask just in case you had a legit use for it! Sounds like you have a cute kid, hopefully he does not put anyones eye out!!!

Originally Posted by Finnster

IDK, its that sh!t you get from Amway. I have like 125lbs of the stuff.

Amway, good god that place (idea?) seems to have gone out of style around here. Good thing, as they always try to get you to join, kinda like a cult. I am glad you have 125lbs of it, but keep in mind you can cut up a liquid detergent bottle and use it as a scoop!

Ok, WTF is with the serious off topicness all of a sudden.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Freezebyte

Ok, WTF is with the serious off topicness all of a sudden.

Dude, the thread got pointless, too many people saying stuff and no actual info.

So I just weighed some stuff. All in grams.

Big Joe tire w/ foam 294.30

Proline 40 series beadlock (commando?) 173.50

Both of the above on the scale at the same time 467.80

Stock lst2 atx tire and 420 wheel 432.90

The lst2 tires are taller than the big joes, and look better, IMO. The 420 wheels do have 20mm hexes, but you can put those tires on any 40 series wheel. I plan to run them as is on my lst with 20mm hexes. They will be quite a bit heavier than the maximizer beadlock/ badlands combo I run now.

I also have some 40 series crimefighters on different wheels

40 crimes on losi 420 wheel 294.5

40 crimes on proline wabash spoked wheel 233.80

I guess you can see which I will run on the Muggy... Saving 60+ grams per wheel, 240 grams total, that is quite a bit in rotating mass. I was going to run the 420 wheels as I have 20mm hexes, but I think the weight savings is worth picking up 23mm hexes to match the wabash wheels.

I have some other wheels and tires hanging around, I can weigh and measure them up and post a thread if you guys like...

[Unsullied_Spy]

Originally Posted by BitHed

...recently the super-store (relative i know) Cost-Co came to Japan and now we have the pleasure of using an American fabric-softener...BIG green bottle (why is everything in America so BIG?) but it smells great :D The bottle makes for a great kiddie shovel after its emptytoo :D Easy carrying handle :D

...ok...Question...

If you had the choice of 40 series OR Baja 5B wheels on Savage or an Emaxx for example, drivetrain issues aside, which would you choose and why?

...I am thinking Baja...Baja fronts dont seem TOO heavy at all...the bigger rim with the shorter sidewall will makes things nice and smooth too IMO...Thoughts>?

American fabric softener, bleech, etc. is all in such large containers because the enviro-nazis have us convinced that by increasing the size of the container "by just 10%" we'll save trillions of tons of waste plastic every year, so at least once a year we get a new "10% Larger!" container which results in the massive containers you're referring to.

I'd go with Baja tires. Hostile tires hook up well, last forever, and Baja beedlocks actually work. 40 series tires cost almost as much and have MUCH thinner rubber which tears easier.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

American fabric softener, bleech, etc. is all in such large containers because the enviro-nazis have us convinced that by increasing the size of the container "by just 10%" we'll save trillions of tons of waste plastic every year, so at least once a year we get a new "10% Larger!" container which results in the massive containers you're referring to.

I'd go with Baja tires. Hostile tires hook up well, last forever, and Baja beedlocks actually work. 40 series tires cost almost as much and have MUCH thinner rubber which tears easier.

Never heard of that, but it is true that the ratio of surface area to volume goes down as you increase in size ( ie a golf ball has more surface area than a beach ball per unit of volume.)

Can't see how Costco necc helps the enviro considering every fraking thing is wrapped in a clamshell. Still, costco FTW.

Why is everything in Japan so small? ;) We have so much space we have no idea what to do with it.

[Unsullied_Spy]

Originally Posted by Finnster

Never heard of that, but it is true that the ratio of surface area to volume goes down as you increase in size ( ie a golf ball has more surface area than a beach ball per unit of volume.)

Can't see how Costco necc helps the enviro considering every fraking thing is wrapped in a clamshell. Still, costco FTW.

Why is everything in Japan so small? ;) We have so much space we have no idea what to do with it.

When I worked for WalMart that's what I was told, and we had to do demos for the newer, larger bottles and one of the points we had to put across to the customer was the SA:V ratio of the new bottle vs. the old one.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

When I worked for WalMart that's what I was told, and we had to do demos for the newer, larger bottles and one of the points we had to put across to the customer was the SA:V ratio of the new bottle vs. the old one.

Really? lol

I could only imagine trying to explain the efficiencies, cost reductions and waste minimization to some housewife coming in to buy soap in at walmart.
"its cheaper that way" seems an easier sell. :)

[Unsullied_Spy]

Originally Posted by Finnster

Really? lol

I could only imagine trying to explain the efficiencies, cost reductions and waste minimization to some housewife coming in to buy soap in at walmart.
"its cheaper that way" seems an easier sell. :)

No kidding. I think I still hear "It's too heavy now!" in my dreams