sick of paying $3 for deans plugs

[zeropointbug]

No $hit.

Wait, I know... because they wouldn't wear out as quick, so less of you buying their product, and less money in their pockets.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by zeropointbug

No $hit.

Wait, I know... because they wouldn't wear out as quick, so less of you buying their product, and less money in their pockets.

True...

I just read some reviews of the HC ec5 style plugs and people give them high praise for performing better than deans... It would be nice if they had the newer style split end male plugs, and not the spring collar style. I have had issues with 4mm plugs as motor wires, and gave them up for lent, so to speak. I use 5mm min bullets on my motor wires, or direct solder them. I also do not use the spring collar plugs anymore, just the split style.

Maybe get the holders and substitute the castle 4mm split plugs. They would not snap into the housing properly, but I always pull the plugs apart by the wires.

[Snipin_Willy]

If only someone had a little capital to invest. Anyone wanna take a risk as developing a high current battery connector, designed by/for RC enthusiest?

[jhautz]

Is 12ga wire good enough? Then Deans should be enough contact area. I saw an article somewhere in one of the mags a while back that did a test of all of the major types of plugs out there and the Deans and traxxas came out on top having no detectable difference between the plug and a piece of 12 ga wire the same length as the plug. That seems good enough for me.

I personally would be a bit annoyed if deans changed their plugs. I have way to much stuff with the deans on there now to go back and update all of the plugs. I thought about going to traxxas or the new Losi 5mm bullet style connectors, but I did some math on what it would cost and it was a few hundred dollars Kinda scarry actually. Makes me think how much money ive spent on this hobby over the years. if there is tah much in just plugs.

Also, the hobby city T-Stlye deans connectors are not as good as the "real thing" I bought some zippy packs a while back and was having issues with them not having the punch I thought they should. Then I noticed that the plugs that came on those packs were getting pretty hot during use. I took them off and replaced the imitations with the real deal Deans and all the issues were gone. No more hot plugs and punch as good as any of my other packs. The cheap plugs were the problem.

I have avoided the imiataions ever since that. Do what you want, but in my experience you get what you pay for. $3 vs having issues with a multi hundered dollar brushless setup. Seems like simple math to me.

[BrianG]

How did they do their tests? Simply measuring resistance is useless unless it is done via a conductance meter (for very small resistances). But, a true test would be to pass ~100A and measure the voltage drop across them.

And I don't think anyone is talking about replacing the existing design (because they work very well for what they are designed to do), but adding a larger size to the line-up. I think we can all agree that they are expensive for what they are.

And while we're at it, how about a three prong non-polarized Deans for BL motor connections?

I agree though, replacing existing plugs would be expensive - with that kind of $$$, you may be able to get a MMM combo!

[jhautz]

The test was more involved than the simple resistance like you said. I agree, that would tell nothing. I'm not sure exactly how they did the tests anymore, it was a while back. SHortly after the Traxxas connectors came out I know that becasue i was impressed that they were rated so well.

[suicideneil]

Originally Posted by BrianG

...wider, a tad longer, and thicker and I'd be happy.

You and me both mate, you and me both..

I agree though, deans must have a hell of a mark up/ profit margin, hence why they cant be assed to change the design as most/many people are happy to continue paying $$ for the old one.

Anyone seen these?



Good? bad? ugly? Discuss...

[jhautz]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

Anyone seen these?



Good? bad? ugly? Discuss...

Looks pretty good to me. Whats the diameter? Probably comparable to the 5.5mm or 6.5mm bullet style we have all been using.

[suicideneil]

4.5mm, they also have 2.5 and 3.5, though Im not sure if thats the overall diameter- probably is though. I like the little springy ring that holds the pins together, and the fat male shaft (I know, I know, its not my fault) looks like it could handle some serious juice through it (its not my fault!).

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Snipin_Willy

If only someone had a little capital to invest. Anyone wanna take a risk as developing a high current battery connector, designed by/for RC enthusiest?

Real soon.

Hmm... I'm pretty much selling everything I have so I'll be able to pick whatever plug I want to use. I have used Deans, HC Deans (haha I got some of them), Traxxas Plugs, and Tamiya Plugs (I didn't know any better). I think I'm going to go with Traxxas Plugs but if there is something better than I'm all for using that instead.

[emaxxnitro]

Originally Posted by jhautz

Is 12ga wire good enough? Then Deans should be enough contact area. I saw an article somewhere in one of the mags a while back that did a test of all of the major types of plugs out there and the Deans and traxxas came out on top having no detectable difference between the plug and a piece of 12 ga wire the same length as the plug. That seems good enough for me.

I personally would be a bit annoyed if deans changed their plugs. I have way to much stuff with the deans on there now to go back and update all of the plugs. I thought about going to traxxas or the new Losi 5mm bullet style connectors, but I did some math on what it would cost and it was a few hundred dollars Kinda scarry actually. Makes me think how much money ive spent on this hobby over the years. if there is tah much in just plugs.

Also, the hobby city T-Stlye deans connectors are not as good as the "real thing" I bought some zippy packs a while back and was having issues with them not having the punch I thought they should. Then I noticed that the plugs that came on those packs were getting pretty hot during use. I took them off and replaced the imitations with the real deal Deans and all the issues were gone. No more hot plugs and punch as good as any of my other packs. The cheap plugs were the problem.

I have avoided the imiataions ever since that. Do what you want, but in my experience you get what you pay for. $3 vs having issues with a multi hundered dollar brushless setup. Seems like simple math to me.

the ones on the zippys are not the ones that hobby city sold.
these are the one hobby city sold

i have tons of them i just need a few more...

[redshift]

Brian I want to see 3 pin Deans as well- they already make a micro version, I guess the tooling costs are just too much....

linc:
"Are powerpoles as good as deans? Seems like they have less contact area than deans"

I have seen a set desolder themselves (on Nimh!) but they were not crimped, just soldered. I bought a bunch years ago to clean up the wiring on my old Japanese streeter, they are awesome for making custom harnesses, but I would not use them for anything over 30 amps personally. I do love the design, and I solder them with a butane torch, super quick.

Wire nuts FTW!

[emaxxnitro]

wire nuts! i used to melt them on my old rustler with msc. FTW!

[suicideneil]

I still have nightmares about my old msc on my txt-1, damn thing cost me an impossible to replace TXT-1 stub axle, had to switch over to Clodbuster stubaxles. Cursed thing wouldnt center on neutral throttle, and it smoked like a hippy, as did the one in my Madbull. Good times...