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07.17.2009, 11:56 PM

So flightpower listed the prices of their packs on the USA website, and the prices are not too bad, definitely not like what their cost difference used to be. I also noticed another thing, IF the test above is to be believed, and now I think it IS accurate, even the discharged mah, then Hyperion overrates their specs, as far as MAH CAPACITY is concerned.

Looking at the different batteries FP has to offer:

EON X30 3800mah 3s pack - 345grams - $130

Hyperion G3 4200mah 3s pack - 345grams - $100 (actual discharged ~3950mah)

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EON X30 3350mah 3s pack - 279grams - $125

Hyperion G3 3300mah 3s pack - 279grams - $80


This goes for almost the entire range of packs that are close to the same capacity, so I am sure FP and Hyperion use the same manufacturer. Also, FP seems to underrate their packs(or more conservative, take your pick), less mah rated for the same cell pack, and a lower C rating as well. So, does this deserve a ~30%+ increase in pack cost for the same thing? Are FP's going to be better matched, better voltage holding ability? Does it really increase costs that much that the consumer must pay for extra quality, wherever it may be... whatever form it may be in?

I think I am going to purchase a pair of the 3s 3800 X30's soon, see how they compare to G3's, which are 25% less. Maybe a Zippy pack is in order too.


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07.20.2009, 05:40 AM

Some more numbers:

Ran my 6s2600mah35c pack today in a Mini Ste:
The setup peaked at 63,58amps and at that point voltage was 21,78v.
So at 24c the pack voltage was 3.6v. This was in the 6th minute of bashing.
   
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07.20.2009, 02:35 PM

eagletree graph of accelleration to high speed (in kmh) vs pack voltage

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07.20.2009, 10:33 PM

Oh thanks for posting that, I just noticed it.

23volts at topspeed, impressive. Your voltage drop is pretty much what I have with my 4200 pack, a tad over 20C at 3.7v/cell, that is for the first part of the discharge, then obviously it will be slightly lower as the pack gets discharged.

I would like to do some more tests myself in my Revo, however, my Eagletree only works in LIVE mode at the moment, unfortunately.

So any subjective opinions about the G3's you want to add?


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07.21.2009, 03:34 AM

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So any subjective opinions about the G3's you want to add?
Not really. haven't run any other packs in my mini ste to compare with. I would really like to test the 35c4s3300 packs in my 8s Muggy though. That would be pushing the packs more to their limits. I have 30c Neu packs in there now, and voltage drops to 3.2-3.4v per cell at 30-40c. My 25c pq packs dropped to 2.9v/cell (in the 8s Muggy) at those ratings and they dropped to 3.4v/cell at 18c (in a 8s Slash).
   
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