60C really?

[Finnster]

I'm all for Maxamps pushing an industry std as long as it makes sense. Many people do not like McDonalds or Walmart, but they are able to have heavy sway and set stds for the industry due to their large influence.

In the end, I think its the only way a std will be set, if one lrg company aggressively pushes it, and the smaller guys jump on board until their is at least a lg plurality of consensus.

There needs to be some fleshed out methodology as Brian suggested (Time, temperature and Vdrop) and the merits of burst ratings can be debated, but overall I think its fine as long as it can be done consistently and reproducibly. It really doesn't matter if the spec is somewhat BS, as long as everyone is measuring their packs on the same BS-o-meter.

[BL_RV0]

The reason maxamps is able to charge such high prices is because they advertise so much. I have nothing against maxamps- although I did have a few of their packs, most of which puffed, but those are older cells so I believe the newer cells may be better. It's also nice to see Austin on here, someone we can actually talk to. I'd like to give maxamps another shot, but the prices are simply too high. Maybe MA should can some of their advertising and make their packs more reasonably priced, having their target market being experienced RC users, rather than noobs.

[Unsullied_Spy]

Originally Posted by Finnster

I'm all for Maxamps pushing an industry std as long as it makes sense. Many people do not like McDonalds or Walmart, but they are able to have heavy sway and set stds for the industry due to their large influence.

People buy the cheap crap from WalMart and McDonalds for the same reason people buy Zippy/Turnigy lipos: They're cheap and it does the job. If it lasts 1/2 as long as a pack costing 3x-4x as much it's not really a bad investment (and if you crash and kill the pack you don't lose as much $$$).

[Arct1k]

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

People buy the cheap crap from WalMart and McDonalds for the same reason people buy Zippy/Turnigy lipos: They're cheap and it does the job. If it lasts 1/2 as long as a pack costing 3x-4x as much it's not really a bad investment (and if you crash and kill the pack you don't lose as much $$$).

yup and there is a good reason why America has such a high trade deficit and US jobs keep going overseas...

The only reason there is not a buy american campaign is that they own $800bn worth of US treasuries and could sink the US if they didn't roll them... but it would be mutual destruction as they'd loose their money...

It is the cold war again but instead of nukes it is trade in plastic junk and the odd bit of lithium...

Originally Posted by Finnster

People buy the cheap crap from WalMart and McDonalds for the same reason people buy Zippy/Turnigy lipos: They're cheap and it does the job. If it lasts 1/2 as long as a pack costing 3x-4x as much it's not really a bad investment (and if you crash and kill the pack you don't lose as much $$$.

The thing that sells me on Zippy besides the price is that for 25% of the cost of more expensive packs, I get equal, and many times longer life spans out of them.

And, lets not forget that Zippy packs are not the only packs from the far East, while MA assembles their packs here, MA cells come from the same region.