60C really?

[jpoprock]

You know, I'm a small business owner. So what right? Well, I see this little debate as wildly amusing. Why? Because even though you guys have seeming good intentions, when it comes to "keepin 'em honest", It's stunning to me at what levels you will take it! Because to me MA is only playing by the same rules as everyone else. The difference is, they are still small enough to be accessible! Try blasting Integy for selling over priced JUNK, start ripping Traxxas and you'll be banned from their forum for life. Try attacking Allstate, State Farm, GM, Ford, Apple, Microsoft, and the list goes on. Do you honestly believe their claims, advertising campaigns, slogans, can be validated by consumers? Maybe or maybe not. I may have my opinion, but millions of other consumers will beg to differ. And those companies all operate under state and federally regulated guidelines! MA is operating with no real set guidelines, but believe that what they are doing is good. No where does it say that consumers have to agree right? We all have choices to make. The big guys are the easist targets to go after, and it's human nature to want to.

My point is this, even if you test the pack and it misses "your" mark, who cares because "your mark is your mark". Your method is yours, and theirs is theirs. Who wins or loses? Sounds like a lot of wasted time, ego, and posturing to me. Is it going to change anything REALLY? Maybe to you guys, but not them, and certainly not the majority of the buying public. Even if you went on a relentless smear campaign, people will look at you the same way many look at conspiracy theorists... Which is "I don't understand any of this, and don't have the time to find out for myself" which is exactly what the Govt wants you to think. It's too far fetched and complicated for me to prove or understand, so I'll continue being spoon fed what's easist to digest. Maybe that is what's wrong with society, but it is the way it is, like it or not.

Do you think RC Driver, XRC, or RCAction are going to give a rip what the boys at RCMonster said about MA, when a fresh shipment of brand new Lipo's show up for them to run in their test cars? NO! It's only going to matter to you guys, who aren't even hip to MA batteries anyway!

So no, I wld never expect Austin to send anyone here a free pack to test, because he doesn't have anything to prove to you really, and more importantly because it's pointless to. Win or lose, you will still lose and he knows it.

Frankly, I have better things to worry about then if MA is screwing me out of some continuous burst rates. I'd rather watch anything on History Channel, than to spend time worrying about a battery!

That being said, I'll gladly sit back and watch this episode infold, then turn out the light, and go bed. And mind you, I've never owned, and probably will never own a MA pack, because I need my Lipos in pairs, and just cannot afford those packs. But if people are buying the crap out of them, and the public perceives MA as being the best, then give the Marketing guy a raise, cuz guess what? Not every consumer is as educated as some of you may be on batteries, and people love to buy what is perceived to be the "best". And that is why the State Farm's, Apple Computers, GM's, and Honda's of the world survive. Quality is one thing, but perception is EVERYTHING.

Gotta go, time for Ice Road Truckers!

Jason (no, not MA Jason!... DOWN BONDONUTZ, DOWN BOY!)

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by jpoprock

...My point is this, even if you test the pack and it misses "your" mark, who cares because "your mark is your mark". Your method is yours, and theirs is theirs...

The point is we are not saying it should live up to anyone's mark or standard, just define and back up that mark. A blanket "we have the best batteries in the world" is fine, if can be proven true. If so, great. Do they have anything to prove to us? Not if they don't want to. They could have just scoffed at this thread and walked away. No, they chose to post here and then many of us responded. Yeah, those discussions can get heated, but that's the nature of the beast. "Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."

No, maybe not everyone is as knowledgable as some here, but for how long? BL is not exactly cutting edge anymore being made available for the masses at a decent price.

As you pointed out, many other industries have standards for rating and testing. Seeing a sticker saying "meets standards" would eventually be trusted and would let people know that the product is rated approriately with a common set of guidelines, whatever those may be. And many of those companies you stated are considered good companies because of their quality/longevity, not their marketing. Ford could say they are the most reliable car in the world, but repair shops and consumer experience will eventually tell the tale. And guess what? Consumers will eventually come not to trust them.