Eat like a Brasilian!!!!

[redshift]

Originally Posted by pinkpanda3310

There are a few different cures but they work with differing affectiveness on different people. Blended flax seed oil and cottage cheese is the simplest method my mother tried but even then she didn't know if you stop the proceedure at any time and then take it up again it loses it's affect to attack cancer.

I was referring to Wilhelm Reich's work with orgone therapy. And many other methods, apparently that were 100% effective in targeting only cancerous cells.

It gets very Meta.

IIRC Reich worked closely with Tesla at one point, at the very least they were quite aware of each other's work. This would have been in the 30's.

I wouldn't know what to tell you as far as real alternative medicine, where to go and such but it's well worth researching.

And yes panda, I'm a thinker. And a n00b at lots of things too.

JJ your woman needs to just cut that shit out of her diet. It will NOT be easy.

[jayjay283]

Originally Posted by redshift

JJ your woman needs to just cut that shit out of her diet. It will NOT be easy.

The cure for her is drinking a COKE, no kidding, the coca cola. Sometimes takes 3..(caffeine) Only thing that stops it. Well known where she grew up sucking on some leaf (not cocaine leaves lol) though that would be nice. Coffee beans, some leaf Im not privy too. I dont get migrains, I can eat/drink anything.. I also have some rare mad cow type disease from living in England in 1984 which excludes me from giving blood in America. Maybe im a walking cure, or disease

[redshift]

Well if she likes trading a migraine for acid reflux... aaaaaaaalrighty then.

I've heard about them leaf-suckers, they usually ain't right in the head...

[PBO]

I don't know guys, you're applying some very large brush strokes to complex problems. I'm not disputing your personal opinions or beliefs but the idea that western medicine is solely focused on the income rather than outcome is far fetched

My family is benefiting every day from the medical industry which assisted us to best case outcomes, not band aid solutions...we're not forced into repeat services by their poor service. It's not to say that doesn't happen - I've helped chiropractors with their mortgage repayments, until I saw the absurdity of the situation

I also know leaders in their respective fields & they give themselves unconditionally to their patients & the industry generally. Local doctors are the ones IMO who are slaves to the pharmaceutical companies, they service the masses for minor ailments & process patients like a madam would punters

[pinkpanda3310]

http://hsiaustralia.com.au/

These guy's try to expose modern medicine. I have to admit, I don't like all the hype that comes with it.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by PBO

I don't know guys, you're applying some very large brush strokes to complex problems. I'm not disputing your personal opinions or beliefs but the idea that western medicine is solely focused on the income rather than outcome is far fetched

My family is benefiting every day from the medical industry which assisted us to best case outcomes, not band aid solutions...we're not forced into repeat services by their poor service. It's not to say that doesn't happen - I've helped chiropractors with their mortgage repayments, until I saw the absurdity of the situation

I also know leaders in their respective fields & they give themselves unconditionally to their patients & the industry generally. Local doctors are the ones IMO who are slaves to the pharmaceutical companies, they service the masses for minor ailments & process patients like a madam would punters

The facts are coming. Most people here in America don't really want to bother with the things from other places. I talk to a lot of folks and some of the things I tell them, they don't believe until I show them the facts and they here from others. For example, America is a melting pot of many countries and a lot of the people here now have forgotten some of the roots and/or culture. I can go into details, but it'll be a lot of writing.

[Finnster]

I work in the medical industry, and while I admit there are a lot of F'd up things that go on, I don't think its full of evil. I think there are a whole host of competing incentives and influences and assumptions that make our system far less effective and more expensive than it can be.

Personally I think avg Americans (and many other "1st worlders") have to deal with very busy work lives which leads to a number of very unhealthy behaviors. Lack of time to cook leads to consumption of poor quality food, little time to exercise, little time to sleep. We get impatient and want all our problems fixed quickly and cheaply and with little personal effort. Pharmas are more than happy to promise to give what the people want. Got a problem? We got a pill. Tired, fat, sad or impotent? We've got your fix.
Its my belief that overwork and unrealistic expectations is also a key reason our divorce rate is so high, but that's another thread.

Secondly, I am not always impressed with the people that are selected to go to medical school. The selection process filters for people who have very high grades and test scores, which often means people that are very good at studying and memorization, but not always much else. However, it is a rare person that combines this with creative thinking skills or good social skills. Being in science, I've met lots of pre-med people over the years. While their grades were enviable, they were not always the people I'd want as my Doc. Many tended to be very book smart, but take them away and put them in RL, and they would do some dumbass sh!t. I don't trust many of them to fix my RC, let alone my liver. Some of the most impressive people I know could never make it in, let alone pass boards because their test taking skills were not quite as sharp as those above.
Also, they are trained in school to believe in their own superiority and infallibility, not unlike science PhD students, so they leave school with a large degree of hubris. They are not so well trained to listen to other people and question, as they are not the ones who made it throught the elite schools, so obviously they don't know what the frak they are talking about.

Don't take that I'm saying all Drs are crap, just that a white lab coat does not make one a sage. They can be wrong, don't be intimidated by a title/degree, and you have to go with what you feel is right, either insisting of different treatment, or a different doc that seems to suit your needs and share your philosophy of how you wanted treated. Docs are also under a lot of pressure to run through people like cattle. They get paid to do things, tests, exams, poking etc. They often do not have the luxury of talking and investigating. A private insurance system is ultimately most incentivised to make thier patients just healthy enough to keep making premium payments, pay as little as possible for care, and return the rest of the $ to shareholders. If they are too troublesome or sick, just kick them out and let Medicare or someone else pay for them.

Lastly, our environment is full of chemicals we are not naturally adapted to. As said, additives in food, packaging, but even in the air as by products or pollution, from factories or cars or even building materials. I don't think its acute exposure to any one thing that becomes a problem, but no one can say what the cumulitive effects of such chronic exposure will be. Teasing out those answers is a terribly difficult process. My brother is a professor and cancer researcher, and the work is painfully complicated, slow and frustrating. If he could come up with a cure to any one cancer, no matter how rare, he could become a very rich man. However, its entirely possible he may work his entire life and not make any meaningful breakthru, despite the large amts of money his lab recieves.

[PBO]

Originally Posted by lutach

The facts are coming. Most people here in America don't really want to bother with the things from other places. I talk to a lot of folks and some of the things I tell them, they don't believe until I show them the facts and they here from others. For example, America is a melting pot of many countries and a lot of the people here now have forgotten some of the roots and/or culture. I can go into details, but it'll be a lot of writing.

I'm not sure which angle you're coming from Lutach?

Maybe I can clarify what I said...western medicine requires income to move forward. Without this there's no R&D & little incentive to push for best case outcomes. I think you'd agree that if I set up a shop selling organic, indigenous Brasillian foods, I'd need to make a profit. Profit isn't a dirty word

If western medicine is in fact a farce or a scam to milk money from the population, then why do the R&D, why introduce life saving methods, medicines etc? It would be simpler to just take the income & give a pittance in return...like the gambling industry

I support the argument that a good diet of good quality food, combined with exercise is the key to a longer, healthier life (in fact I'd go so far as to say people who live this way should be able to pay less taxes but that's another argument entirely), afterall, we're living longer & healthier lives than ever before. I also agree with the point Finnster raises about chemicals in our environment, today more than any other time we are living in a chemical concoction that we have no real control over

We certainly have no way to accurately interperate how our current environment will affect current & future generations...we live in uncertain times, as we always have, only we've developed a feeling of control with massive medical advances since the 19th century

[redshift]

Originally Posted by Finnster

Who knows what is in the food they are serving at lunch. Its usually very cheap and poor quality ingredients.

Wow. http://www.naturalnews.com/027872_am..._products.html

[pinkpanda3310]

Nice find redshift.

We almost never eat that shite (once a blue moon to spoil the kids).

Isn't it ridiculous to inject almost anything into food and have it passed by authorities. People are accussing companies of being black-hearted, what about the authorities?

[lutach]

The people in this beautiful country should do something and put an end to all of this toxic chemicals in food, medicines and every other thing we put in our bodies. The US might need a big scare to make people think twice and start asking questions. I'm working on something that will start to shine the light on some things. It will take a while.

[PBO]

One would assume she's looking for her hit of amonia & it aint coming fast enough...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI6diCFB0jM

[_paralyzed_]

Originally Posted by PBO

One would assume she's looking for her hit of amonia & it aint coming fast enough...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI6diCFB0jM

that's disgusting. there were children right there.

[PBO]

Someone should have stuck that bucket on her head!!

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by redshift

Wow. http://www.naturalnews.com/027872_am..._products.html

If you watch the movie Food Inc you can watch where they go into the BPI plant and show this processing. Of all the things you get to see, sadly this is not the most disgusting. Good movie, if you have netflix you can stream it online.
The owner of BPI claimed in the movie that 40% of the hamburger in the US contained his shit, and expected to reach well above that in the years to come.

Originally Posted by lutach

The people in this beautiful country should do something and put an end to all of this toxic chemicals in food, medicines and every other thing we put in our bodies. The US might need a big scare to make people think twice and start asking questions. I'm working on something that will start to shine the light on some things. It will take a while.

Its really disturbing how dirty our food has become. Not just in the things that are in it, but how its raised and grown and how much people are conspired against to remain ignorant of what their food really is and where it comes from.

What is just shocking to me, coming from a medical products industry regulated by the FDA, is what a complete dichotomy there is when it comes to regulations and enforcement. We make things that don't even go in your body, and we are constantly and vigorously inspected and monitored by FDA agents, who are very willing to micromanage and change our processes on the most remote possibility that a defect or inconsistency may occur in the process. Mind you, not in the product even, but a defect that may occur that would cause us to scrap the product well before it even left the door (and even if it did, not likely to cause any harm.)

OTOH, food processors can get away with bloody murder putting god knows what toxic crap in the food because its so soaked in bacteria and animal shit, proper labeling of the food is forbidden, and every effort is made to protect the industry and keep their practices secret, all at the expense of our health and tax dollars. EG, remember all the fights recently whether or not meat and veggies should can even be labeled as GMO or having undergone gamma irradiation prior to packaging? (because the food is so loaded with fecal bacteria, e coli, it needs to be irradiated just to be safe. Spinach anyone?)

I stopped buying the majority of the meat I buy at grocery stores a while ago as I knew some of this, and from previous experience growing up in a big Ag state and having a cousin owning a small ranch. I worked on it one summer in HS, and even took some animals to a local sm slaughterhouse and got to see a lot of shit no one ever gets/wants to see. The prepacked little slices of meat we see in the grocery is so far removed from its source its amazing.


I'm fortunate to have a very good farm market just down the road that sells excellent meat from animals living on their 450 acre farm across the street which I can see, visit, know the farmers and know what the animals are eating and how they are raised and fed. Not only that, the meat is marginally more expensive, but much higher quality and has tastes that grocery meat from factory farms never has. My cousins meat too would be considered sustainable/organic/whatever (tho his gun-toting redneck republican ass would never admit it, lest he be a loony liberal hippie) and the lab tests he had done it showed way lower levels of fat and cholesterol, and much higher levels of iron and vitamins that store bought beef. No antibiotics, hormones, animal products or other unnatural crap in the feed either and it also always tasted amazing.