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Bmr4life · 07.11.2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thzero

This isn't a HPI Baja 5B. Rather it is a HPI Savage Flux converted to 5th scale to resemble the Baja 5B.

But yes, its sitting on my floor with a broken axle.

I know, I just bought a Flux with the TCS kit. Looks just like yours. Just wanted to see how many fellow Flux 5b/5t owners there are.

Jahay · 07.13.2010, 09:19 AM

wow the trencher is huge and lighter!!! must be the beadlocks right?

thzero · 07.13.2010, 11:35 AM

Well the wheel is a bit smaller in diameter, but yes I would say some of it has to do with it being a beadlock. The wheel was also designed for a heavier vehicle than the trencher/tech 5, so its a bit sturdier which typically means more weight.

Sure unsprung weight isn't the best, however to some extent its not the "devil" its made out to be. The 5mm thick stretched TVPs are actually worse for the vehicle than the heavier wheel/tires.

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Originally Posted by Jahay

wow the trencher is huge and lighter!!! must be the beadlocks right?

Arct1k · 07.13.2010, 09:44 AM

I'll be very interested to see what it looks like with the tires on the car?

Bmr4life · 08:09 PM

Question to a fellow 1/5 Flux owner. Does your TCS kit have all of these sideways TVPs stiffeners or did the previous owner of my buggy add those?

I want to mount my batteries inside the chassis, but two of the posts are in the way.

OP, more questions. What foam did you use on your roll bars and how is your battery mounted?

thzero · 07.13.2010, 09:05 PM

Yes....came with lots. I only use a few. See my gallery link in original post. Has lots of pictures on how I mounted my batteries internally. I used some rubber from some wire I bought at HomeDepot.

Bmr4life · 07.13.2010, 10:26 PM

Thanks. I just took a few of them out including the front diagonal piece. Got it looking like yours. The battery tray should be simple enough to make. I'll be using velcro straps to hold them in place.

Finnster · 07.13.2010, 10:30 PM

This thing just rocks

Arct1k · 07.13.2010, 10:34 PM

Personally I think the cage is to big and too far fwd... Waiting to see the FLM version...

Bmr4life · 07.13.2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k

Personally I think the cage is to big and too far fwd... Waiting to see the FLM version...

The purpose of this kit isn't meant to look like a 5B so the position of the cage doesn't matter. Its probably in the perfect spot for a 5T body.

Only thing I'd like to have different is the position of the transmission and motor. Have those moved further up because mine still pops wheelies on 4s.

Hopefully moving the battery forward into the rails will help.

thzero · 12:21 AM

Actually the cage is smaller, but yeah it is forward. Probably is prefect for the 5T body; but I personally didn't wanna pay 125+ for a body! And the 5T wheels are like 7.5" diameter as compared to the 6.9" 5B wheels... think 7.5" might really be pushing the Savage a bit too far.

With FLM you might be waiting awhile, we'll see. Mike is supposedly doing one too.

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Originally Posted by Arct1k

Personally I think the cage is to big and too far fwd... Waiting to see the FLM version...

I don't use any of the plastic cross bracing anymore. :)

I'm running 5S on 47/18, but I also have like 20% punch. Gearbox could be moved forward a bit to allow for longer motors. However, that would interfere with the 'stock' battery boxes.

Arct1k · 07.14.2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thzero

With FLM you might be waiting awhile, we'll see. Mike is supposedly doing one too.

Mikes not making one, Jamie at FLM is - The prototype was being cut this week and shipped to NJ ;)

thzero · 07.14.2010, 08:31 AM

Ah. Got any details on it?

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Originally Posted by Arct1k

Mikes not making one, Jamie at FLM is - The prototype was being cut this week and shipped to NJ ;)

thzero · 09:42 AM

Well some more pictures because the HPI 24mm Hex Adapters finally came in. These are pretty nice, much better than the ProLine stuff, but not sure if they'll cut it or not as they have some of the basic problems due to the axle.

Nonetheless here is a pic of the comparison showing the difference between the HPI 24mm hex adapters and the ProLine 23mm hex adapters (wrapped with metal tape). The HPI units are definetly bigger and beefier. The pin area has plenty of material surrounding it so should help some of the issues I was having with the ProLine units where the pin would end up spinning inside the adapter. See the http://picasaweb.google.com/thzerodo...27172706040626. The HPI nut is also segregated which is a nice touch.

Note that the ProLine adapters do not spin freely when you slide them onto the axle. I've tried using different lubes (Gorilla Snot being the best) to try and allow them to slide on and off easier but to no avail. The HPI adapters spin and slide on the axle freely so there should not be any issues.

And then another shot of yet more damage caused by ProLine adapter issues...

Here's also my current thoughts on a design to allow the 24mm hex adapters from the Baja to fit on the Savage. Why? Well because the Baja units have a pin through design, and also a 4mm pin vs. a 2.8mm, which should help keep the pin from spinning inside the hex adapter and causing damage ala the ProLine unit from the link above. Also it would perhaps help strengthen the axle where it is weakest (i.e. where the hex nut screws onto the axle).

Drawing of how a system might be constructed to allow the Savage axle to support using the 24mm hex adapters for the Baja. The Savage axle is 8mm, but the Baja hex adapters expect a 12mm axle. So we basically have a 12mm OD (8mm ID) sleeve that slides over the Savage axle, and a endcap that screws onto the Savage axle. The Savage axle would need the pin hole bored out to 4mm rather than 2.8mm it currently is to utilize the 4mm pins from the Baja.

The other way to go is to just get some custom C-hubs made that will take a 24x12mm bearing (as opposed the 16x8mm bearing from the Savage) and run some custom dogbones that will have one ball for the Savage diff cups and one for the Baja axle cups.

Finnster · 07.14.2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k

Personally I think the cage is to big and too far fwd... Waiting to see the FLM version...

I had noticed that too, but the previous pic thzero had with the body and the wing evened it out quite a bit. Still a bit long in the rear section to me, but still looks really good and a very nice build.

Really the only thing that really bothers me is the hideous stock radio box in the front. Needs to have something more streamlined with the rest of the body, else covered up

Very much waiting to see what Jaime comes up with.