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12.17.2010, 01:25 AM



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Rcm lipos - 12.17.2010, 01:36 AM

I would love to see Mike start making his own line of Monster Lipos to sell on RCM. I bet he could do a whole lot better product quality wise, and give us a fair price. We still have not heard any real word on how these TRUE 150C packs perform or hold up under load. What a sorry Ad campaign.


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12.20.2010, 12:10 AM

If you guys are actually serious about testing, and will pay the money. Get yourself a 2s 6500 150C battery and attach to your 8th scale geared up, and log a run on it. In all reality, nobody is going to do it. You dont really care, you just like to complain and talk trash about maxamps. You also don't care that it has been repeatedly stated that it's a 75C constant rating, you still rag on it as them claiming its 150C constant. I know the way they "rate" this one as opposed to any other is reason enough to call them out on it, but to keep on about it just gets old.

A class action lawsuit? Get real, first you'd actually have to buy one of their packs, which from what I've read won't ever happen, and then prove their false claims.

I've seen a lot of "probably"s and "likely"s with no attempt to back up your claims from you posters trashin on Maxamps, what's the difference between what you're saying vs. what you're bitchin about maxamps saying?

As someone posted a few pages back, you guys took the bait, you should drop this thread, it's been a couple months, there are no more graphs coming.

Im not siding or defending maxamps, but for someone who just read through this entire thread during the last couple hours, it seems pretty well useless to continue on, everybody knows you guys don't care for maxamps but yet you keep giving them more of your time and attention to prove your dead horse point repeatedly.

Sorry, just expected a little more class from this forum after wasting my time through 33 pages of nothing. If any of you really did half expect anything more out of what you're used to with maxamps, then shame on you.
   
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12.20.2010, 09:41 AM

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If you guys are actually serious about testing, and will pay the money. .... In all reality, nobody is going to do it.
Really?

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12.20.2010, 01:21 PM

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thoroughly discussed, but it is still funny to see RCCA pimp MA. What a joke!
   
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12.20.2010, 12:33 AM

Actually, sir, we do care. That is why we continue to complain. We hate seeing MA lead people on with their claims of superior performance with nothing backing them up. We were hoping for a change since they hired a "new" marketing director. Though it turns out they lied about that, too. Before MA, he had been the editor of a RC mag with MA as one of their main sponsors, so basically he had been working for them all along.

Any legal action against MA would be ridiculous. I have to agree with you on that point. As dishonest as their claims are, not a single person on this forum would be willing to pay for a lawyer to go after them...even if the costs were split.

Sorry to have disappointed you with the literary quality of the thread. What did you expect? You seem to be familiar with the whole MA situation here...so why did you bother to read the whole thread in the first place and then suddenly become angry about doing so when it turned out to be the same old story?
   
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12.20.2010, 12:44 AM

I guess the same reason everyone else did

What could you possibly expect out of a new MARKETING director though? Seriously, quality isn't going to change, just new ways to sell, and it seems they've done great in that department.

For me, poor quality or service isn't a deterrent, I have a really old maxamps battery that still works. I think anyways, I havent checked on it lately. Price is the factor that will keep me from ordering. It's newbs to the RC or lipo world that is what maxamps is after. Worked on me once, worked on my friend once as well, and probably a host of you guys as well. It's been a couple years since I've been overly active so I guess I happened onto this thread and overreacted to your reactions to the same old song and dance. I half expected trash talk, but I didn't really expect two months worth of maxamps leading you on. If you look at it the way I did (after the fact), you can see once the natives get restless, wilcox comes in and throws you a bone, then you settle down for a bit, then repeat. What was going to happen before halloween hasn't happened yet and it's nearing Christmas.
   
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12.20.2010, 12:55 AM

I guess we were expecting Brandon to deliver what noone else could... Solid proof of their performance claims. I think that's a great marketing strategy....

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If you look at it the way I did (after the fact), you can see once the natives get restless, wilcox comes in and throws you a bone, then you settle down for a bit, then repeat. What was going to happen before halloween hasn't happened yet and it's nearing Christmas.
That certainly didn't help. We were told there would be proof of the new cells' performance and we never got it (at least we haven't yet ).

So then we hear the "cells" are rated for 75C CONTINUOUS... Ok, well that's still really good... Can we have proof of that? Sure! Here's a 7C discharge graph for ya...........

You see my point.

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You're preachin to the choir. Im very much aware of the issues and everyone's point of view with them. Its almost as though you're dealing with someone who's always been up front and honest and glad to provide detailed charts.
   
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12.20.2010, 02:50 AM

There was a small ray of hope, only because Mr. Wilcox initially showed interest in our concerns and offered to help...unlike anyone else who has represented MA on this forum in at least the time I've been here.
   
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12.21.2010, 09:05 PM

Mate of mine got suckered into these Maxcramps packs, so over the weekend I'll do some Eagletree tests in my SCRT10 and compare them with my Enerland 5050mah 30C packs. Will post up the graphs and see if we can settle this.


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01.02.2011, 05:04 PM

It is also amazing to see brand X perform the way it did. Much better performance would be expected from brand X according to its reputation and price. It kinda shows to me that any company can fling BS at me, no matter what their reputation is. It shows to me that when it comes to lipos, no company can be trusted until some standardized testing of lipos is established. It also shows me that the old saying ''you get what you paid for'' that has been said to me so many times when I started in brushless is also BS. Not because the people that said it were mean, because they didn't really know what they were talking about. No one knows really, without standardized testing of cells, you can get a bad pack from any company out there. I mean, the cells pretty much come from the same places.

Right now, quality control and CS is what defines the better companies and that's it. So ''you get what you paid for'' relates to what the good companies are willing to do to fix the problem of bad lipo cells finding their way in their lipo packs. These companies that are trying their best to do the right thing must suffer from the lack of standardization on the testing of the cells they buy. It all starts with the manufacturer of those cells, that's where a global standardization is needed. Cells come out, are tested in the same manner that is globally recognized and then graded. Like beef. Grade A cells, grade B cells etc. Now the companies that buy cells to assemble packs and sell them can chose the quality of the cells they put in them and price accordingly. And WE will finally know what we are really buying and finally the words ''you get what you pay for'' will regain their true meaning.


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01.02.2011, 05:31 PM

I wonder what maxamps would do If you sent them a discharge graph made on a CBA analyzer for one of there packs, then asked for your money back for poor performace.


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01.03.2011, 01:45 AM

Well my attempts to get a decent comparison failed, bashing was a Slash VXL (VXL motor died, rotor shattered so was running a Turnigy 36-50-3300kv 2 pole toaster) The "new"Max Amps race editions tripped the VXL's LVC after 5 minutes, threw my older race pack in (Enerland 5050mah 30C) which I'd done 10 minutes in my SCRT10 with, and was fine for another half hour.

...would indicate a great deal of voltage sag under load, so early in the discharge curve too.


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01.09.2011, 06:32 PM

I found this VERY interesting......http://spokane.craigslist.org/mnu/2144760186.html Yeah sure, pay me 9 bucks an hour to assemple your $200 battery packs. That is BARELY above minimum wage here.


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