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Standardized testing has been discusses numerous times but goes nowhere. Consistent and repeatable testing would have to be done by a reputable third party. Once such a company and procedure exists, coming up with an arbitrary standard will be all but impossible to satisfy everyone. A plane guy has different requirements than a heli guy or a car guy, and each group can be further divided by how the packs are used (racer vs basher vs top speed).

Personally, I would be happy with a simple graph showing voltage vs amperage vs temperature vs usable capacity. That's it. Let the consumer decide if the graph results are adequate for their needs/usage without having to come up with an arbitrary X volts/cell @ Y current @ Z temperature standard, which will likely change as the technology advances, and makes comparing apples to apples more difficult.
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Personally, I would be happy with a simple graph showing voltage vs amperage vs temperature vs usable capacity. That's it. Let the consumer decide if the graph results are adequate for their needs/usage without having to come up with an arbitrary X volts/cell @ Y current @ Z temperature standard, which will likely change as the technology advances, and makes comparing apples to apples more difficult.
Yes, this is what we need. A method to compare packs in the real world. Most people could care less what the numbers are, just how it compares to other "known" packs.

Problem with this is that once this info was out, you would find a "diamond in the rough" and that supplier would get the lions share of the sales. And I believe it would be an out of country supplier, who spends very little on advertising and can sell stuff cheaper.

Maxamps, for all their flaws, has always had alot of advertising, promotion and presence at local and national electric events. They promote their products well, and get alot of business that way. Most of the bad taste here comes from the beginning, and the obviously inflated specs they had. I am not sure if they still do that, but this 150c claim does nothing to make me think the DON'T.
   
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Personally, I would be happy with a simple graph showing voltage vs amperage vs temperature vs usable capacity. That's it. Let the consumer decide if the graph results are adequate for their needs/usage
I agree, although don't you think that communicating the information is a large part of demystifying the cell/pack capabilities for the consumer?

Simple graphs or X/Y charts provide educated users raw information so they can make informed decisions but they may leave new users in a similar situation whereby savvy marketing can eclipse data

I'd love to see the data displayed in a 3 or 4 field adapted Venn diagram or maybe even a radar chart. I believe this is more approachable for new or casual users & goes a long way toward displaying the most appropriate use for the cell/pack...if the sweet spot matches your intended use - you should be good. In theory!!


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I agree, although don't you think that communicating the information is a large part of demystifying the cell/pack capabilities for the consumer?


I couldn't agree more here PBO!! This is the biggest problem. While its a brilliant marketing strategy, it's false hope for the best products in my eyes.

I think I gave the example in a prior post of even my LHS owner being misinformed of Maxamps C rating.

If there was a standard Graph or Venn diagram to post the packs performances, then manufacturers could advertise at extreme burst rates if they wanted. The proof of performance would be there in the diagrams.


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