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snellemin · 03.22.2011, 11:18 AM

I'll put my 2 cents in about carrying the greencard on you along with your other id cards. The greencard is not even remotely close of getting easily replaced. If it was, then nearly nobody would have a problem carrying it with them at all times. Blame the slow goverment for this. In my younger years I use to be asked for my alien card during traffic stops in Florida. I always said that I don't carry it with me, as I had to use it to get my driver license. It took my parents more then 7 years to get the card for me, and do you really think I will walk around with the card and get it lost for whatever reason. NO. Current cost of a replacement green card is around 370 dollars when you apply for it by yourself. The other immigrants that don't really understand the english legal terms, hire a immigration laywer to help them fill in the paper work. That my friends is time and more money just for one card. You can end up with a 500 dollar bill just to replace a green card.

JERRY2KONE · 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by snellemin

I'll put my 2 cents in about carrying the greencard on you along with your other id cards. The greencard is not even remotely close of getting easily replaced. If it was, then nearly nobody would have a problem carrying it with them at all times. Blame the slow goverment for this. In my younger years I use to be asked for my alien card during traffic stops in Florida. I always said that I don't carry it with me, as I had to use it to get my driver license. It took my parents more then 7 years to get the card for me, and do you really think I will walk around with the card and get it lost for whatever reason. NO. Current cost of a replacement green card is around 370 dollars when you apply for it by yourself. The other immigrants that don't really understand the english legal terms, hire a immigration laywer to help them fill in the paper work. That my friends is time and more money just for one card. You can end up with a 500 dollar bill just to replace a green card.

That is just another excuse that can be fixed if enough people are onboard with the problem. If that is all that it takes to shut people up about carrying the dammed thing, then we can overcome that aspect of the immigration problem. Not once in all of the political arguements about requiring immigrants to carry this ID card have we heard that the cost of replacing a lost ID card was the issue. This arguement over the Federal laws that govern this immigrant ID card issue is simply another double talking excuse to keep the United States of America from exicuting and enforcing the illegal immigrant status problem.

Whats next can't carry my license because I might loose it. WTF is wrong with people and not having any GD common sense anymore. ID cards are made for what reason. TO ID YOURSELF TO OFFICIALS WHO REQUEST IT. This is why the ID card was invented and put into use in the first place. We all have to show some kind of proof of who we are to verify anything in regards to a legal status, period. ID cards like this one have to be all of the same type and hard to copy in order to make them legitimate. Otherwise everyone would have one made up at the local printing store and the program would be null & void. Any arguement against an ID card is a bunch of BS. Just like the rest of the immigration laws that are on the books in every other country around the world, if you do not want to abide by them then get the hell out, or go to jail. I might lose my ID card so I do not carry it. That is just plain rediculous.

I am not trying to pick on any one person here, but this really torques my britches. These laws are set up in every country around the globe in order to protect its people and its citizen services that the citizens have paid for in one form or another through Taxes, or some other form of payment. If you go to visit another country you have to have the proper paperwork filled out in advance and you have to pay for any kind of Visa or Immigration ID out of pocket. The people of that country do not pay it for you. Keeping that ID secure and not losing it is your responsibility. If you lose it you pay for it again. If it takes two weeks or two years then you go home until it is processed and you receive it. There are no shortcuts or loopholes for getting around these proceedure. We have been doing this for every country we have been assigned to for years. Our kids carry whatever is required by that country and we stress over and over and over again how important it is to not lose these ID's. Now 12, 14, & 15 none of them have lost one yet. They do misplace them in their clothing sometimes, but we instructed them to always look at it as if they have a $500 bill in their posession, because yes it is an expensive and PITA loss if they do.

Bottom line.... If you can not obey the laws of the coutnry you want to visit, then do not go there.

snellemin · 03.22.2011, 01:42 PM

Getting a replacement driver license is as easy as going online and apply for one for a few bucks and getting it in the mail within a week. If the greencard was as easy as going online and low cost, that yea no issue for me to carry my greencard. Hell getting a Surinamese passport is easier than a green card. Or how about going to the post office to apply for you American passport. Easy as pie. Greencards are more valuable to immigrants than Americans think. Why, because you can't get one with ease. Like I said before. It took my parents more then 7 years to get one. And they did it the legal way. 7 Years of waiting just so you can give your kids a better opportunity in life.

Make the replacement cost affordable and quick and I'll carry mine anytime, just like I carry all my other ID's.

JERRY2KONE · **Hard life. -** 03.22.2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by snellemin

Getting a replacement driver license is as easy as going online and apply for one for a few bucks and getting it in the mail within a week. If the greencard was as easy as going online and low cost, that yea no issue for me to carry my greencard. Hell getting a Surinamese passport is easier than a green card. Or how about going to the post office to apply for you American passport. Easy as pie. Greencards are more valuable to immigrants than Americans think. Why, because you can't get one with ease. Like I said before. It took my parents more then 7 years to get one. And they did it the legal way. 7 Years of waiting just so you can give your kids a better opportunity in life.

Make the replacement cost affordable and quick and I'll carry mine anytime, just like I carry all my other ID's.

Look Snell I have seen some of your posts in here for a while now and you are a pretty straight up guy. I do not come in RCM to fight with anyone on this point. Yes I understand that it took 7 years to get your first green card, but that is not the case if you have to apply for a replacement card because it was stolen or lost. Federal law requires anyone with a green card to carry it at all times. Not me, the Federal law states it. It does not say except if. If your not going to at least carry the original green card, than carry a copy of it for the reason you shared. That can be explained and proven to be a true copy if anything should come up. I do understand the cost and the PITA it takes to get one replaced if it is lost. That is the way it is, and all I can say is do not lose it. I am 52 years old and have been carrying a license, and military ID card an a whole lot of cesurity type ID's most of my life. I have never lost one yet. I did however drop my wallot into the North Atlantic one time and luckily got it back with a boat hook. We were in the middle of a really bad storm with 100mph winds and the whole wallot just blew right out of my hands. I treat my ID's like gold and protect them as such. Anyone who has ID's should treat them the same way. Especially if they are valuable to you. Like I said I have to do it for every country we have lived in, so I know how you feel about the value of those ID's. I have never had a green card, but I have to believe that they keep a good record of what is issued. So if someone was to lose one they could show their other ID's and have another one made up fairly easy. Of course we all know there is red tape to go through for every Gov issue, but it is still a doable process.