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12.17.2011, 06:55 PM
To be blunt, the lawsuit/liability thing is just bull****. This whole hobby is a lawsuit waiting to happen; you have lipos that can burn your house down if you don't treat them right, gears that can chomp a finger if you are stupid enough to go near them while it's running, voltages that can harm you (for HV people), currents that can generate enough heat to burn, and so on. And really, a ~10lb vehicle will hurt just as much doing 70mph into your ankle as 100mph. Idiots will get hurt and hurt others no matter what you do.
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12.17.2011, 09:36 PM
why does everyone cry so much about the unlock? that's like we crying that i want a new ford diesel but i only like the old shitty dodge transmission that's in my current truck because i don't like change. don't like it its cool don't buy it.
crying about it isn't going to change it
sorry rant over
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I'm telling Patrick you said that!
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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12.17.2011, 10:20 PM
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why does everyone cry so much about the unlock? that's like we crying that i want a new ford diesel but i only like the old shitty dodge transmission that's in my current truck because i don't like change.
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Um, maybe it's more like this: You pay full price for your new ford diesel and it can only go 50mph unless you unlock it with an iphone. Would you be happy?
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12.18.2011, 09:03 PM
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Um, maybe it's more like this: You pay full price for your new ford diesel and it can only go 50mph unless you unlock it with an iphone. Would you be happy?

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no but i bought a dodge and without an edge it only makes a pathetic 230hp
the point is if you don't like it don't buy it
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12.17.2011, 10:23 PM
Actually when you do spend some money on a programmer, you can unlock a whole lot of power from your Diesel.
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GTP-Pletty Big Maxximum+RX8. GTP-C50-6L Hacker+RX8. CRT.5-Pro4+ZTW esc.
24s2p EVG SX 49.6mph Ebike.
18s4p Raptor 60mph Ebike. 11.5KW
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12.17.2011, 10:33 PM
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Actually when you do spend some money on a programmer, you can unlock a whole lot of power from your Diesel.
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That is very true, but from the factory the engine is tuned for longevity. Modified diesels take a LOT more work to maintain. I wouldn't be happy if I bought a new truck and the torque converter or clutch only lasted 10k miles and if they were built to handle the full capabilities of the engine it would cost twice as much...
All I ever wanted was an honest weeks pay for an honest days work.
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12.17.2011, 10:41 PM
Same as RC. Got to pay to go fast. In Traxxas case, better batteries, gears, spare parts and the I-device.
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24s2p EVG SX 49.6mph Ebike.
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12.17.2011, 10:43 PM
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Same as RC. Got to pay to go fast. In Traxxas case, better batteries, gears, spare parts and the I-device.
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Not quite. Supposedly it's built to handle the power already. This is more accurately described by your new Mustang coming limited to 50 MPH when even the Fiesta can do better.
EDIT: Mustangs do come factory-limited though. Mine is around 150, and while I do have to spend a bunch of money (less than an iPod touch, but still) to remove the limiter at least it's high enough I rarely ever see it.
All I ever wanted was an honest weeks pay for an honest days work.
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12.17.2011, 11:08 PM
My Expedition is limited too. Will cost about 500 bucks to "unlock" it's potential. Allready spend money on a better brake pads, wheels and tires. My poor Camry is limited too. I did spend money on a Centerforce clutch for it, for mo' Torque. I can chirp the tires into second gear with that four banger and 17" wheels.
The Traxxas has the potential to go way faster with a different motor and batteries. Just waiting for the modders to get their hands on one. I'm hoping Monster Mike does come up with some improvements for it, before I blow the money on one.
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GTP-Pletty Big Maxximum+RX8. GTP-C50-6L Hacker+RX8. CRT.5-Pro4+ZTW esc.
24s2p EVG SX 49.6mph Ebike.
18s4p Raptor 60mph Ebike. 11.5KW
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12.17.2011, 11:11 PM
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My Expedition is limited too. Will cost about 500 bucks to "unlock" it's potential. Allready spend money on a better brake pads, wheels and tires. My poor Camry is limited too. I did spend money on a Centerforce clutch for it, for mo' Torque. I can chirp the tires into second gear with that four banger and 17" wheels.
The Traxxas has the potential to go way faster with a different motor and batteries. Just waiting for the modders to get their hands on one. I'm hoping Monster Mike does come up with some improvements for it, before I blow the money on one.
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I don't recall either of those being touted as being the fastest in the world though
It does have potential, but IMO the power system going into it is a beast as it is. Despite the $1100 price tag I would still be in limbo as to whether or not to buy one IF it weren't for the limiter. It's just not right. Oh well, surely someone will see the potential and start selling unlocked XO-1s on eBay
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12.17.2011, 11:15 PM
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Oh well, surely someone will see the potential and start selling unlocked XO-1s on eBay 
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I see that happening too.
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12.17.2011, 11:16 PM
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I see that happening too. 
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For sure!
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12.18.2011, 09:09 AM
To everyone that has complained about the price....have you looked at the price of brushless botors lately? The motor and esc price is about 40% of the price tag
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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12.18.2011, 10:52 PM
The Castle Motors have gone to nearly $300 ea on their site which Patrick has explained as the price of one of the key raw materials going through the roof. Personally, it just means if I see Castle Neu motors for $100 ea on the Forums with light use I snap em up :)
If you can afford $1099 for an XO1, you can afford to buy an Ipod Touch to unlock it. Do we complain that a MMM Esc won't work with a Hobbywing Esc card?
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12.19.2011, 12:43 AM
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If you can afford $1099 for an XO1, you can afford to buy an Ipod Touch to unlock it. Do we complain that a MMM Esc won't work with a Hobbywing Esc card?
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If anybody would complain about that, it would be you. So I think we're good to go.
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