Sensored for 8th scale?

[GriffinRU]

Originally Posted by cspurlock

I would be curious to speak with someone who actually has it working in a buggy and what type of running they are doing(bashing or racing). I tried several different gear ratio's and could not get it to stop from thermalling. I personally don't think it will work for racing, but if someone has done it, lets hear about it.
P.S. I did have the fan mounted.

With Kv=4400 forget about buggy conversion, unless you have 8 or less teeth pinion for 46t spur... or 66-72t spur with pinions you have :)

It is the motor which kills HV performance, wire HV-Novak ESC with good sensored motor (aveox...) and you will see BIG difference.

Artur

Originally Posted by GriffinRU

With Kv=4400 forget about buggy conversion, unless you have 8 or less teeth pinion for 46t spur... or 66-72t spur with pinions you have :)

It is the motor which kills HV performance, wire HV-Novak ESC with good sensored motor (aveox...) and you will see BIG difference.

Artur

The kv on that motor isn't actually 4400. I know one of the R&D guys at novak and he told me that the way they test them is different then how the rest of the motors are tested.

I do agree with you that if you put a sensored Aveox on it, the performance would be much better. Why bother though.

[GriffinRU]

Originally Posted by cspurlock

The kv on that motor isn't actually 4400. I know one of the R&D guys at novak and he told me that the way they test them is different then how the rest of the motors are tested.

I do agree with you that if you put a sensored Aveox on it, the performance would be much better. Why bother though.

And how is that different? Kv ratings are given for the motor without load, otherwise you need to call it different and specify testing load. In general Novak's electronics are designed very well, but motors and software sometimes not.

What you mean by "Why bother though"? Have you read this thread...

Artur

Originally Posted by GriffinRU

And how is that different? Kv ratings are given for the motor without load, otherwise you need to call it different and specify testing load. In general Novak's electronics are designed very well, but motors and software sometimes not.

What you mean by "Why bother though"? Have you read this thread...

Artur

"and how is that different?" not sure what you meant by that?
I understand how kv ratings work, I'm just saying that the person I know said don't compare our 4400kv listed to that of other common brands like Hacker because they are testing it a differnt way. He said the acutal kv on that motor would be less if it was tested the same way everyone else was tested. I have the motor, and no way it is 4400kv. I would guess between 2500-3000 is more accurate.

Why Bother- That meant why would you buy an HV system and buy an aveox motor to replace the novak motor, it just doesn't make sense to me. You would be so deep dollar wise, and still not have that great of a setup. Why not just buy something else.

[GriffinRU]

Originally Posted by cspurlock

"and how is that different?" not sure what you meant by that?
I understand how kv ratings work, I'm just saying that the person I know said don't compare our 4400kv listed to that of other common brands like Hacker because they are testing it a differnt way. He said the acutal kv on that motor would be less if it was tested the same way everyone else was tested. I have the motor, and no way it is 4400kv. I would guess between 2500-3000 is more accurate.

Why Bother- That meant why would you buy an HV system and buy an aveox motor to replace the novak motor, it just doesn't make sense to me. You would be so deep dollar wise, and still not have that great of a setup. Why not just buy something else.

Guessing is not a precision tool. And just because it doesn't get to its rated RPM in emaxx (very well known reasons), doesn't mean that it doesn't have Kv=4400. So, until you have proven data which shows that Novak's info incorrect, I will stay with Novak's data. Motor is motor and it doesn't need to be Hacker brand or like to agree with theory of operation and physics, if you wish.

Dollar wise everything is possible and e-bay is not a bad place. Soon you can get sensored motors from Feigao as well. So $250 HV-Maxx plus $60-90 Feigao (S/L/XL) Motor...

Artur
P.S. Personally, I think HV-system was designed by two different teams. While Team responsible for ESC did amazing job, motor group screw them up big, forcing them even create last minute fixes in program to make somehow system operational at all. Too bad nobody will tell you the real story... :)

Originally Posted by GriffinRU

Guessing is not a precision tool. And just because it doesn't get to its rated RPM in emaxx (very well known reasons), doesn't mean that it doesn't have Kv=4400. So, until you have proven data which shows that Novak's info incorrect, I will stay with Novak's data. Motor is motor and it doesn't need to be Hacker brand or like to agree with theory of operation and physics, if you wish.

Dollar wise everything is possible and e-bay is not a bad place. Soon you can get sensored motors from Feigao as well. So $250 HV-Maxx plus $60-90 Feigao (S/L/XL) Motor...

Artur
P.S. Personally, I think HV-system was designed by two different teams. While Team responsible for ESC did amazing job, motor group screw them up big, forcing them even create last minute fixes in program to make somehow system operational at all. Too bad nobody will tell you the real story... :)

Stating the obvious, "guessing is not an accurate tool" of course it is not that is why it is called a guess. :007: Also, where did I base my statement off the motor not reaching a specific RPM in a Emaxx??:032: If you read my post you would see that I was not questioning the kv based off my guess, but instead off of the word of one of the R&D people that work at Novak. You can see I live in So Cal, so not too far fetched to believe that @ So Cal raceway(my home track) I might know a few people that work @ Novak seeing this is their home race track also. You believe whatever you want, but I will choose to believe a Novak R&D person over you.

[GriffinRU]

Originally Posted by cspurlock

Stating the obvious, "guessing is not an accurate tool" of course it is not that is why it is called a guess. :007: Also, where did I base my statement off the motor not reaching a specific RPM in a Emaxx??:032: If you read my post you would see that I was not questioning the kv based off my guess, but instead off of the word of one of the R&D people that work at Novak. You can see I live in So Cal, so not too far fetched to believe that @ So Cal raceway(my home track) I might know a few people that work @ Novak seeing this is their home race track also. You believe whatever you want, but I will choose to believe a Novak R&D person over you.

:)

Magnetic field is stronger in So Cal...

Artur