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JERRY2KONE SUPERMAXX
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02.15.2010, 07:06 AM
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Hefty price is right, worked out at $100 AUD to get a pair of Lifepo4 packs (2s 1100mah) for my Mini Revo, but that said they work well and seem to hold good balance, run it till it dies, charge at 7 amps and in 10 minutes off we go again.
5000 cycle warranty, and I'm counting lol :)
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If they do last that long the value would seem to be a pretty good deal, don't you think? I know Maxamps has not developed a very good rep on here, but 5,000 cycles would prove to be a boost in the right direction.
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02.15.2010, 10:48 AM
By the time you get to 5,000 cycles the battery tech will have moved on again and we'll all be using LI-MP-MN-$C packs or something equally ridiculous. You reckon Maxamps actually counts on anyone claiming on that guarantee?
"Well, these batteries should last for 5000 cycles so for them to have died at 500 you must have abused them"
Baseline is, you are paying a massive premium for a guarantee that means nothing in the real world.
Even if these Turnigy Lifepo4 cells aren't the same or slightly lower quality than the Maxamps cells, is it worth paying a $140 premium for a 3s2p 4500 pack that MAY last a few more cycles. The answer is no. It is not.
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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02.15.2010, 12:07 PM
Wow....5000 cycles, true 60C rating and priced a little too high....I can't fall for BS marketing and big corp. like practices, specially in a hobby. Have any of you guys wonder why they don't go for the Aircraft guys? Here's a hint....Most newcomers to the hobby will always get started with a rc car and will read the rc magazines and fall for the marketing first before finding out there are similar packs out there at less the half the price.
I wonder when MA will leave the rc hobby and move on to the military and/or auto industry with their incredible cells. The owner of MA also has other ventures going for him, so he should be ok when they can't sell anymore over priced packs. Apogee made the move to supply the military with their cells and I haven't seen any being used or reported by the military.
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02.15.2010, 12:46 PM
That's a very good point Lutach. Aircraft folks generally know what they are doing.
The majority of newbs to RC get a traxxas because it has ridiculous speed claims on the box and the shiniest packaging. They then hop on the net and see a Maxamps advert and end up on the site seeing yet more shiny advertising and speed claims and before they know it they've dropped $200 too much for tat.
My sister's boyfriend bought an E-revo and then bought a set of Maxamps pack for it. I went skits. Now he is well versed in the arts of lipo and brushless and the truck is full of NEU, Castle, Spektrum and RC-Monster products.
Odd that Maxamps aren't so hot on boat and aircraft packs. Considering the fact they have the best products in the industry you'd have thought that everyone with high amp boat and aircraft setups would be all over that shit.
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RC-Monster Brushless
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02.15.2010, 07:46 PM
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By the time you get to 5,000 cycles the battery tech will have moved on again and we'll all be using LI-MP-MN-$C packs or something equally ridiculous. You reckon Maxamps actually counts on anyone claiming on that guarantee?
"Well, these batteries should last for 5000 cycles so for them to have died at 500 you must have abused them"
Baseline is, you are paying a massive premium for a guarantee that means nothing in the real world.
Even if these Turnigy Lifepo4 cells aren't the same or slightly lower quality than the Maxamps cells, is it worth paying a $140 premium for a 3s2p 4500 pack that MAY last a few more cycles. The answer is no. It is not.
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I would be willing to bet they are the SAME cells.
Conducted testing here and the results were good, on the cheaper cells.
I haven't been able to justify giving the amount requested to test against the "competition". There's nothing wrong or misleading about the Turnigy Lifepo4 packs.
The "Competition" is full of BS, and hoping to line their pockets. Just my opinion.
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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02.15.2010, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by E-sav
By the time you get to 5,000 cycles the battery tech will have moved on again and we'll all be using LI-MP-MN-$C packs or something equally ridiculous. You reckon Maxamps actually counts on anyone claiming on that guarantee?
"Well, these batteries should last for 5000 cycles so for them to have died at 500 you must have abused them"
Baseline is, you are paying a massive premium for a guarantee that means nothing in the real world.
Even if these Turnigy Lifepo4 cells aren't the same or slightly lower quality than the Maxamps cells, is it worth paying a $140 premium for a 3s2p 4500 pack that MAY last a few more cycles. The answer is no. It is not.
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True, and if any other company had Lifepo4 cells that fit the Mini Revo I would have been all over them like a rash.
Noone did.
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02.16.2010, 06:38 PM
Now I want a boat.Very cool vid.
SC8-E RCM MMM CC 1717
Slash 4x4 MMP CC SC 2400
SC RC8BE MMP Neu Tekno 1512/2D
Mugen MBX6 Eco MMP Neu Tekno 1515/1.5D
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RC-Monster Titanium
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02.17.2010, 03:46 AM
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Now I want a boat.Very cool vid.
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Thanks, they're a ton of fun! Lots more complicated than a truck though. Lots more to go wrong and when things do go wrong you'd better be prepared to retrieve it. I have an inflatable raft and electric air pump I keep in my car for when things go wrong. When everything comes together and works as it should, it beats the pants off bashing a truck!
All I ever wanted was an honest weeks pay for an honest days work.
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RC-Monster Mod
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02.17.2010, 04:24 AM
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I have an inflatable raft and electric air pump I keep in my car for when things go wrong.
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But how often have things gone wrong? I've always wondered what happens when it flips over or hits something and starts getting water in. Just kiss your expensive electronics goodbye? I really want a boat (very similar to the one Hippie just bought actually) but the whole thought of it sinking isn't to pleasant...
Last edited by squeeforever; 02.17.2010 at 04:25 AM.
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RC-Monster Brushless
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02.19.2010, 07:43 PM
A-Main now carries ProTek LiFEPO4 batts...better price than MA.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...09&filter_cat=
Losi 8T 1.0, Savage Flux - XL style, LST XXL, Muggy, 3.3 E-Revo Conversion and sitting outside 425hp, 831 Tq Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel. It SMOKES
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RC-Monster Titanium
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02.20.2010, 02:35 PM
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But how often have things gone wrong? I've always wondered what happens when it flips over or hits something and starts getting water in. Just kiss your expensive electronics goodbye? I really want a boat (very similar to the one Hippie just bought actually) but the whole thought of it sinking isn't to pleasant...
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Boats flip all the time, it happens mostly from turning faster than the boat can handle or hitting chop going too fast. The hardware at the keel it usually attached tight enough that water doesn't come in through the holes, the stuffing tube is packed with grease which helps keep water out, and you are supposed to tape the hatch down so the hull is basically an air chamber which keeps itself afloat. This Spring I'm going to start taping the hatch, in that video I didn't have it taped and despite the busted up bow I would have been able to go in after it before it sank if it didn't take on so much water through the hatch.
All I ever wanted was an honest weeks pay for an honest days work.
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02.19.2010, 09:51 PM
I wonder why none of their packs are the same 4500 mah as the Turnigy packs....
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02.20.2010, 12:15 AM
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I wonder why none of their packs are the same 4500 mah as the Turnigy packs....
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I would say form factor. I've got the Turnigy packs and I don't think the volume they take up (even if rearranged) could be squeezed info a hard case the size of the typical ROAR legal pack.
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02.20.2010, 05:02 AM
Cool beans- I wonder if MA will drop the prices on their Life packs, or will they just say ' protek am factory rejects' like they did with the Turnigy cells?
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02.20.2010, 09:17 AM
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Cool beans- I wonder if MA will drop the prices on their Life packs, or will they just say ' protek am factory rejects' like they did with the Turnigy cells? 
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All Packs are rejects! Except their's!!! Give them all your Money!
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