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Second place is the first loser!
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01.17.2009, 12:41 PM
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ROAR SUCKS! and the guys that run the rc proseries are a bunch of dicks also, they wouldnt even let me run in the intermediate class with my xray. if they limit it to 4s and put pack dimensions and hardcase rules they can kiss most of the guys would be a "series" racer because thats not what we run, and nobody in there right mind would waste alot of money DOWN grading their electonics so they and race in ROAR, it should be plain and simple rules or it will never work its actually like they are trying to prevent the class from turning into somthing big.
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seriously,
why not keep it simple and just call it 1/8 Modified class and anything goes. 4,5, or 6s and any kv motor. this would be so much better. i know for a fact i am not going to go buy a 4s Losi hardcase lipo and motor to suit. that was actually my first conversion. i did a losi 8 buggy with the Neu 1512 1.5d on the Losi 4s hard case. it was nice but since then i have tried a lot of other stuff and have found much better equipment and much better setups. i now run thunderpower, polyquest, and neu energy packs in 5s. anyway, sounds to me like ROAR is more political than practical and its about money more than it is about "safety" or fairness. i dont know, i have a really hard time with authority figures/organizations and rules being imposed, can you tell??
Jammin SCRT10 Neu 1512 1y
Losi Ten-T SCT conversion Neu 1512 1y
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Im not dark, Im over ripened! xD
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11.19.2008, 09:03 AM
Very true, I think 5s at a minimum... knowing roar they will only make some high priced- cruddy pack (MA) with a hard case for upwards of 200 dollars which makes all these people spend more money...
i wonder what the Motor limits are?
Benjamin White
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KillaHurtz
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11.19.2008, 03:22 PM
Yeah and Boo. Feels a bit like a short lived golden age is coming to an end. We were all saying ROAR would go and make rules that would ruin the whole thing. Thankfully I'm not a big racer and the tracks I would run at would not follow ROAR most likely. As if Barnstormers would suddenly tell RCM Mike that his 5S truggy wasn't legal.
4S limit is ghey.
What about the motor rules? Hopefully Novak won't get its way with the rules this time around. I could only imagine if the MMM/Neu was not Roar legal.
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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11.19.2008, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Finnster
Yeah and Boo. Feels a bit like a short lived golden age is coming to an end. We were all saying ROAR would go and make rules that would ruin the whole thing. Thankfully I'm not a big racer and the tracks I would run at would not follow ROAR most likely. As if Barnstormers would suddenly tell RCM Mike that his 5S truggy wasn't legal.
4S limit is ghey.
What about the motor rules? Hopefully Novak won't get its way with the rules this time around. I could only imagine if the MMM/Neu was not Roar legal.
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Novak is on the board, castle and Neu are not. there is no way Novak isn't going to try to make their setup the standard, they would lose big time if ROAR approved the MMM/Neu setup. Castle will make more with the bashers, Neu makes his off planes (we are a small portion of his revenue) Novak makes almost all their money off racers.
On the 4s rule, I'm not for limits on voltage, but i can see the point of 4s limit. They are looking at the torque, The higher the voltage, the higher the torque. 4s geared right on either a novak or any other setup will best mimick the nitro's, there will be less learning curve for those who cross over. I to hope that they don't do hard case setups as well, but with Losi making one, the writing is on the wall
Work because i gotta, play because i wanna
People here hate Nitro, I love it. I start it, run it about 50 ft from me and it dies, I go after it. Perfect exercise
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Something, anything, nothing
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11.19.2008, 08:07 PM
Thank God nothing I do relies on anything ROAR does.
If I did race or decided to race int he future, you can be sure that I wouldn't/won't do it on a track governed by ROAR rules.
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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11.19.2008, 08:33 PM
Man, 1/8 scale racing hasn't even got off the ground yet and ROAR is already planning it's death.
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Im not dark, Im over ripened! xD
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11.19.2008, 08:37 PM
Well lutach i feel bad for you.... what are your setups 8s at a minimum
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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11.19.2008, 08:55 PM
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Well lutach i feel bad for you.... what are your setups 8s at a minimum 
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They should allow up to 10S specially if more of this so called hard cased lipos comes out in 3-5S configurations. You can have good 3200-3700mAh 4-5S packs for a very good price and most good cheap chargers can handle those fine. I like my 8S set up and if only ROAR saw the safety of it, but those fools are looking at their pockets and making BS rules. Some of those guys have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to brushless, lipos and now 1/8 scale electric. It's cool, I'll be just waiting to see how many lipos go up in flames, ESC go up in smoke and motors run just too damn hot to touch due to the high AMP demand a 4S set up asks for in these heave vehicles. Good luck to all that follows ROAR with their rules.
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01.15.2009, 10:40 AM
Just noticed that the 2009 ROAR rules are up on the ROAR site. It appears that the 1/8 offroad electric rules are included in it. Dont know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but I figured Id mention it in case it hasn't been yet.
http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/..._Rule_Book.pdf
I can't decide if its more fun
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or break it...
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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01.15.2009, 11:45 AM
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Just noticed that the 2009 ROAR rules are up on the ROAR site. It appears that the 1/8 offroad electric rules are included in it. Dont know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but I figured Id mention it in case it hasn't been yet.
http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/..._Rule_Book.pdf
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Is there only going to be a buggy class?
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RC-Monster TQ
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01.16.2009, 09:06 PM
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Is there only going to be a buggy class?
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I don't see any rules for 1/8th Truggies so it seems buggies only for now.
Maybe when the Truggies are added we'll see a 6S Lipo limit
Ha Ha
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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01.15.2009, 09:07 PM
R.O.A.R. = Ruining Offroad w/ Audacious Rules
Why not require each racer to have a battery case to hold lipo's and that's it?? Soft or hard-cased wouldn't matter. 4s? Bah! Whatever voltage ya want so long as you can control your car and finish the race without thermaling or burning a motor.
We can all agree that a proper race set-up requires thought with regards to gearing, voltage and motor kv. That alone will seperate the serious racers from the pretenders.
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01.15.2009, 09:34 PM
The battery pack shall not display rapid disassembly
Are they talking about it exploding?
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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01.15.2009, 10:03 PM
8.3.2.6.2 The fully charged battery pack shall be dropped from a height of 5 feet to a flat
concrete floor. The battery pack shall land flat on the floor during the drop.
ROAR= retards overthinking anything r/c
yeah i wanna see a friggin lipo dropped 5 foot on concrete hard case or not!
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Something, anything, nothing
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01.16.2009, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by slimthelineman
8.3.2.6.2 The fully charged battery pack shall be dropped from a height of 5 feet to a flat
concrete floor. The battery pack shall land flat on the floor during the drop.
ROAR= retards overthinking anything r/c
yeah i wanna see a friggin lipo dropped 5 foot on concrete hard case or not!
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Yeah, I can really see myself dropping $200.00 batteries on the floor to satisfy ROAR.  Has anyone at ROAR actually read any lipo care procedures  , or do they just pull this stuff out of their asses?
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