New eBay Feedback Policy - Page 2 - RC-Monster Forums

skellyo · 02.02.2008, 02:31 PM

The problem I see with this is that you cannot leave negative feedback for a non-paying buyer now. In those rare cases, the buyer certainly deserves for others to see that they're a deadbeat and may not pay.

Although, it looks like the cost of selling on eBay has grown to that of a retail store, where at times, you just may have to eat the $ if you don't want someone leaving you negative feedback.

pipeous · 02.02.2008, 06:06 PM

I have one negative feedback, from a non paying bidder I filed against. the person did it to a few people and had his account suspended. Even though this person was proven to be a bad person, to remove this bad feedback, I would have to pay the fair trade fee to remove it. I think that is assinine having to pay to remove a negative because someone didn't pay in the first place.

I do dislike the sellers that wait for you to leave feedback first though. I always leave feedback as soon as payment is done. That is the way it should be. Their part is to pay. If they have, you leave feedback. Too many sellers use it to retailiate when they have done the wrong thing. I bought some brushless stuff, the guy takes off camping and delays shipping to me for 2 weeks and then still waits for my feedback? so if I leave a negative for waiting forever for my products he slams me even if I paid within minutes.

I think a better solution is a seller can't leave negative feedback if he waits until after the buyer leaves feedback. the option for a seller to leave negative feedback after the buyer has done so gets disabled, but also, a buyer should have feedback disabled if a npb file has been claimed for the flip side

jhautz · 02.02.2008, 08:04 PM

Bottom line is if you arent able to be honest in your comments to/about buyers then the whole premis that Ebay works on will be lost. The system works basically on the honesty and integrity of the people buying and selling on there and if you are not allowed to place negetive comments when they are desreved then the whole system crashes down.

Ebay has gotten out of control anyway. Between the Ebay listing and final value fees and the Paypal fees they are taking a huge chunk of cash. They are taing way more than they desrve anyway. Its about time they did something stupid to knock themselves down a few pegs.

gixxer · 02.02.2008, 08:24 PM

I dont sell much on ebay but I really think there fee's have goten out of hand. They lowered the insertion fees but increased the final selling price fee. How does that help? Also on reserve auctions you use to get that money back if reserve is met but you wont after the new changes.

Between there fees and paypal you are lossing a lot of your selling price. I think I will start selling most of my stuff on forums and just go to ebay as a last resort now.

jhautz · 02.02.2008, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer

They lowered the insertion fees but increased the final selling price fee. How does that help?

I'll tell you what that does. It allows the mega sellers to flood the place with crap products and it hurts them less if they dont sell. That is purely a move to pander to the mega sellers of commodity junk.

02.03.2008, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer

I dont sell much on ebay but I really think there fee's have goten out of hand. They lowered the insertion fees but increased the final selling price fee. How does that help? Also on reserve auctions you use to get that money back if reserve is met but you wont after the new changes.

Between there fees and paypal you are lossing a lot of your selling price. I think I will start selling most of my stuff on forums and just go to ebay as a last resort now.

X 2 man

I have stopped using fee bay also, using the rc forums for sale sections is so much easier!

Pliska · 02.02.2008, 09:03 PM

I agree, The whole ebay system is getting messed up, and the fees are crazy!!

gixxer · 02.02.2008, 09:28 PM

jhautz, that is true. Kinda meant how does that help us(the little people selling things they dont use anymore). But I guess since they make most of there money off of the power sellers it doesn't really matter to ebay.

MetalMan · 02.03.2008, 12:49 AM

I haven't sold anything on Ebay in some time now, although I buy fairly often.

This new Ebay policy sounds like sh**. knotted came up with a nice idea of how easy it is for something to go totally wrong, and to me it sounds completely possible. Somebody should contact Ebay with this scenario, just to see what their response is.

jhautz · 02.03.2008, 01:34 AM

knotted... do you have a link to this policy somewhere on Ebay? I cant seem to find it. I want to read the entire policy. This just seems so wrong that it cant be possible. I'm not saying your wrong, but I feel like there has to be more to it than just sellers cant leave negative feedback. Why would they even bother keeping the feedback from sellers then. It becomes effectivly meaningless if the only feedback you can leave is positive.

I guess you could always leave a green "positive" fedback that reads.

"This guy is a rip off artist. DO NOT SHIP TO HIM OR YOU WILL BE SORRY!"

Its still techincally positive cuz its green. They can't control the text. But what a PITA having to read all the text for someone.

sikeston34m · 02.03.2008, 01:38 AM

Jhautz,

PM me with your email address and I will forward the email to you that I received from Ebay concerning all the changes.

There's a pretty long list of changes actually, not just feedback.

sikeston34m · 02.03.2008, 01:55 AM

There ya go. Lots of reading.

jhautz · 02.03.2008, 02:25 AM

Here is another interesting tid bit from that email.

"In a small number of cases (fewer than 5% of all payments on eBay), PayPal will hold payment funds until either the buyer has left positive Feedback or 21 days have passed without a claim."

So not only cant you leave negative feedback, but you may have to wait until the buyer leaves positive feedbck before they relese your money to you. Thats just wrong!

rschoi_75 · 02:14 PM

I did some more reading on this last night and ebay did add some features to help sellers, but it still doesn't outweigh the bad changes.

- Ebay will remove neg feedback from a buyer if the seller wins a dispute claim.

- Ebay will remove neg feedback if the buyer is ever suspended or banned. Retroactively....
This somewhat counters the idea Knotted came up with, but the downside is that, you are stuck with the neg until they are suspended. A "hitman" would eventually be suspended, but it may take some time.

there are other changes too. You can see them all if you go to the link below:(Titled: "A message from Bill Cobb - New Pricing and other news" Jan 29, 2008.) Look under the "evolving feedback" section. http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200801....08-01-29054823

sikeston34m · 02.03.2008, 07:27 PM

I was just thumbing through my Ebay purchases and noticed something new.

I bought a couple of E maxx trucks several weeks ago and forgot to leave feedback for them.

Now beside each transaction Ebay has added this note:

"Ebay Note: You haven't left feedback yet. Problem with the item? Don't miss the deadline for filing a dispute."

The last part of the sentence "deadline for filing a dispute" is a hot link that takes you directly to the "Item Not Received or Significantly Not as Described Process" page.

I'm starting to believe it's time for me to pack up my goodies and go elsewhere other than Ebay. This is getting rediculous for sure!