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08.31.2008, 10:23 PM

with what esc?


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09.01.2008, 11:54 AM

Rx8 has been mentioned as being a 6s or 8s capable esc IIRC.
Lutach was talking about his chinese HV escs that he's working on.

Great news about the Rx8 though- Im personally not so fussed about the motor, but a capable esc and reliable one at that would be great, same with the BEC too.
   
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Rx8 has been mentioned as being a 6s or 8s capable esc IIRC.
Lutach was talking about his chinese HV escs that he's working on.

Great news about the Rx8 though- Im personally not so fussed about the motor, but a capable esc and reliable one at that would be great, same with the BEC too.
Yes, I was talking about my Chinese HV ESC. I too would love to have a Tekin 6S or 8S capable ESC. I think 8S would be the better choice as you can also use it with 6S.
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09.01.2008, 12:08 PM

and when the rx8 release....just to kick a*** of mmm

seriusly its gonna be a great controller...wow 8cell


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The Rx8 will not likely be released in the next few months. It will be ready and being tested, but the housing mold will take 8-10 weeks and has not been started. We have our molds built right here in Idaho and mold the parts here as well.

The R1pro and Rspro are rated to 3s because of the BEC limits. The units actually work fine up to 5s or even 6s if you use a seperate BEC unit. WE added voltage cutoffs for these batteries in the latest software. Remember they were designed for 1/10 scale, but because they have such a huge pile of fets they have found a home in larger scales using higher voltages. With better heat removal they may continue to be a popular choice.

I hear you Lutach and agree in some engineering respects. However the Rx8 uses 30v fets and will only be rated to 6s batteries. We are fairly confident that any racing rules will be based on 4s batteries and that will be the standard. Some may use up to 6s, but beyond that there are other factors to consider like the chargers that are commonly available. All of the manufacurers appear to be headed towards this range. If you want decent prices and good racing we have to settle somewhere common. It is not up to use and this just where it looks like we are going as a industry.

We have also had many people suggest we leave the switching BEC out of the unit. Just like rockcrawling applications, it may make sense to keep the BEC seperate since it is a common failure point and kills the entire speedo. This allows easy changes on failed BEC units. Right now we do have a switching BEC in the design. The RSpro and R1pro do not have a switching BEC and fill the other market niche. We think we have it covered and now just have to get them on the shelf.

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I hear you Lutach and agree in some engineering respects. However the Rx8 uses 30v fets and will only be rated to 6s batteries. We are fairly confident that any racing rules will be based on 4s batteries and that will be the standard. Some may use up to 6s, but beyond that there are other factors to consider like the chargers that are commonly available. All of the manufacurers appear to be headed towards this range. If you want decent prices and good racing we have to settle somewhere common. It is not up to use and this just where it looks like we are going as a industry.
I know what you're saying. I just wish the industry actually knew the benefits of higher voltage. I can easily have a 10S or even a 12S set up that will have the same amount of power and run time as a 4S set up, but I'll be safer due to less AMPs used. Every thing will perform at a higher level of efficiency. I might be asking for too much, but is there any way you can make me a 10 or 12S capable ESC?
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The Rx8 will not likely be released in the next few months. It will be ready and being tested, but the housing mold will take 8-10 weeks and has not been started. We have our molds built right here in Idaho and mold the parts here as well.

The R1pro and Rspro are rated to 3s because of the BEC limits. The units actually work fine up to 5s or even 6s if you use a seperate BEC unit. WE added voltage cutoffs for these batteries in the latest software. Remember they were designed for 1/10 scale, but because they have such a huge pile of fets they have found a home in larger scales using higher voltages. With better heat removal they may continue to be a popular choice.

I hear you Lutach and agree in some engineering respects. However the Rx8 uses 30v fets and will only be rated to 6s batteries. We are fairly confident that any racing rules will be based on 4s batteries and that will be the standard. Some may use up to 6s, but beyond that there are other factors to consider like the chargers that are commonly available. All of the manufacurers appear to be headed towards this range. If you want decent prices and good racing we have to settle somewhere common. It is not up to use and this just where it looks like we are going as a industry.

We have also had many people suggest we leave the switching BEC out of the unit. Just like rockcrawling applications, it may make sense to keep the BEC seperate since it is a common failure point and kills the entire speedo. This allows easy changes on failed BEC units. Right now we do have a switching BEC in the design. The RSpro and R1pro do not have a switching BEC and fill the other market niche. We think we have it covered and now just have to get them on the shelf.
Sweet, might have to try out a R1 Pro then. Im using a Ext. BEC with a MMM now, don't really mind using one on a R1 Pro. Will be using it with 5S. Have you had many issues with the R1 Pro with Ext. BEC?


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09.03.2008, 04:55 PM

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...=35vcap&cat=21

We have these - no problem to carry the Tekin capacitors as well. Ours are 35volt, 1200uF caps and are available with or without the soldered wire leads. :)
   
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http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...=35vcap&cat=21

We have these - no problem to carry the Tekin capacitors as well. Ours are 35volt, 1200uF caps and are available with or without the soldered wire leads. :)
Is 1200uf enough Mike , i'm guessing yes ?

Like i said i got a 2700uf cap with my R1 but have spare 1000uf caps , but i thought 1000uf is not enough so i would have to run two in parallel ?
   
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09.05.2008, 01:14 PM

2 in parallel should be fine- most other escs tend to have caps totally about 2000-3000uf (hvmaxx uses a 2700uf item I believe).
   
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Is there any info in numbers abour R1 how much power can it stand on 5S? It should work with 6s a123 then?
   
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09.11.2008, 04:11 AM

Im surprised there hasn't been a photo of the rx8 out yet


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09.11.2008, 04:55 AM

Yeah, I think I will not buy new MGM or MMM and wait till Tekin does his homework, hope till january it will be done?
   
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Yeah, I think I will not buy new MGM or MMM and wait till Tekin does his homework, hope till january it will be done?
Yeah, was hoping it would be out sooner. Less than 4 months till Christmas though. Would make a great Christmas Present


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