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05.30.2007, 09:25 PM

Looks like AAngel and ZPB are going to start a new "unlucky club"...
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05.30.2007, 09:30 PM

i think Quark esc quality control has big priblem..
   
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05.30.2007, 09:37 PM

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i think Quark esc quality control has big priblem..
Sounds like it.
   
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05.30.2007, 10:12 PM

ZPB,

You should email them right away. I'm sure that we aren't the only ones having problems like this. They may have some kid in the back soldering these things up for them, while the main guys work on the new esc. Who knows?

I know that I won't be buying any more S&T products, even when the new esc is released. Now that I think about it, it might be something that S&T is aware of. When I first started having problems with my second Monster Pro, Frank was kind of quick to say "fax us the receipt and we'll refund your money." When have you ever had a manufacturer say that? I've never heard that before, from a manufacturer.

I've gotta admit that I expected a lot more from the Monster Pro, with all of the positive comments that have been made about it. When I got my first one and I opened the case to see about adding the caps, I thought, "man, this thing is kind of dinky." Lots of flex in the pcbs and they looked thin to me, considering how long they are; and as pretty as the case is, it serves no purpose, except to hold the heat in.

I'm really hoping that my Compro gets here soon. That esc is built really well. It didn't have that feeling of fragility. If it hadn't been for the software issues that I was having, I think I would have liked it a lot.
   
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05.30.2007, 11:16 PM

Hey everyone, thanks for the remorse. :025: I am going to phone Frank tomorrow, if I don't feel like talking to anyone (they will hear it in my voice), I will just email, and send pics of it.

AAngel: Believe me, the Quark is an awesome controller, I still want one, the smoothness is just incredible, and addictive. You prob never got a chance to feel the Quark in 'action', from what you said happened to it.

Which controller are you guys talking about? The 125C version? Or is the upcoming Plasma controller?


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05.30.2007, 11:21 PM

With the QC issues that I've seen, I'm not to wild about Quark these days. As far as the Plasma goes, it's just going to be another 1/10 scale controller. It isn't going to be the cure all for us large scale guys.
   
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05.30.2007, 11:29 PM

I have 3 of these in operation right now ranging in age from 1 1/2 years old to about 4 months old and the only problem I ever had was when I ran it though a bunch of standing water and fried it. (quark had a free warranty replacement for that one back to me 2 weeks from the day I mailed it)

You guys are having a string of bad luck or there is something seriously wrong in the Quality department at quark. I wonder if they have recently "cost reduced" these things.

If I were you it would be time for me to make a stink over at S&T...


ZPB, I do agree with you about the quark when its working right. There isn't any other controler that I have ever tried that is even close as far a smoothness. I can make a quark cog. I like that.


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05.30.2007, 11:37 PM

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I have 3 of these in operation right now ranging in age from 1 1/2 years old to about 4 months old and the only problem I ever had was when I ran it though a bunch of standing water and fried it. (quark had a free warranty replacement for that one back to me 2 weeks from the day I mailed it)

You guys are having a string of bad luck or there is something seriously wrong in the Quality department at quark. I wonder if they have recently "cost reduced" these things.

If I were you it would be time for me to make a stink over at S&T...


ZPB, I do agree with you about the quark when its working right. There isn't any other controler that I have ever tried that is even close as far a smoothness. I can make a quark cog. I like that.
I agree, it was smooth for the 5 minutes it was running ;). That's why I don't want to go with a Mamba.
   
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05.31.2007, 12:05 AM

Yeah, I was going to say that earlier, their Quality Control is going of course or something. I would have thought these things are tested before they go out, you know?

AAngel: I remember you saying before that your Quark would not go slow, and it would start abruptly? When, and I mean 'when' the Quark is working :005: the speed at minimum throttle is amazing, it's very slow, and smooth, never cogs.

BTW, the time it took my Quark to be shipped off to Quark for replacement, you bought your first Quark, you got it, you fried it, sent it back, got it back. I still had not received mine back from S&T... ain't it the best to be out of country.


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05.31.2007, 12:06 AM

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I agree, it was smooth for the 5 minutes it was running ;). That's why I don't want to go with a Mamba.
Did yours go on you as well? Or did it just thermal?


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05.31.2007, 12:11 AM

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Did yours go on you as well? Or did it just thermal?
I wish it was just thermal, lots of white smoke came out and a HOT heastsink. It would turn on and operate, but with tons of cogging. I sent it back the retailer and waiting on a replacement. The first one ran fine, but I broke off the programming button.

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05.31.2007, 01:13 AM

OK, so we need a controller that will run a Nue motor right. What is there? There's the Quark, the Compro, and what else. There has to be something out there.

I, like others, have been waiting for Castle, but I've just about given up on that. Think about it. From what I understand, the MMM controller is ready. That means that they have the software. If they do, then why haven't they released it? They have to have some version of it that is compatible with four pole motors. The only thing that I can figure is that they are afraid that if they release a fix for the MM, then their MMM sales will be hurt. If they are playing that game, I'll be PO'ed.

As for the Quarks, I know that they have a good track record thus far, but I haven't seen it. Is this a sign of a good thing gone to crap? I'm about so feed up with all of this I'm about to grab a Lehner from where ever I can find one and run it on 4S with my MM and call it a day. After all, I went to electric to simplify things, not make them more of a headache.

I'll just have to wait and see. I might luck out and the Neu that I have coming will run ok on the MM.

ZPB, do you have another controller to run? How long was the total turn around time for your last Quark?

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05.31.2007, 01:34 AM

Yeah, the controllers are the headache really. I am fed up with this as well, almost every single R/C project I have had, the controllers have be stupid the first time.

My turn around time, IIRC, was 4 weeks. Yup, that is a long time to wait. :025:

At least I got my dimensions for my case. If that will ever take off, if I get a working Quark. I am going to ask them if they can test one for me to assure working order then send it out.


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05.31.2007, 01:59 AM

The Lehner motor crisis will hopfully be over soon. :027: I had a special order Lehner Mike was getting for me and he said it was on the way from Germany now. (4 months later...:032: ) It also sounded like the rest of the motors (or at least some of them) should also be on the way. Shouldnt be too long now, hopefully anyway.

Aangel. Id hold out for the Lehner if you can. They run MUCH better on the MM than the Neu. At least in my experience they do.


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05.31.2007, 12:03 PM

Do the schulze contollers work with 4 pole motors? If not are they any good with normal 2 polers like the XL motors? I know Candyman runs his Bigmaximum on a 18.97k- if it wasnt such an expensive setup that would be a sweet route to go.
   
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