Losi Ten-T Conversion - Page 26 - RC-Monster Forums

RC-Monster Mike · 05.04.2010, 12:57 PM

You certainly have the right to be disappointed, yet It seems the main complaint is the lack of instructions? It seems you got it together pretty quickly based on your posts in this thread, though. Is there something in particular that has let you down? Are the pictures and product description innaccurate or something else that I can address(aside from the customs fees, which basically doubled the cost of the kit to you)? What improvements would you like to see? Expressing your feelings of discontent is all good and fine, but how about something specific regarding the kit? What "wasn't good" about it specifically?

Moller123456 ! · 05.04.2010, 01:40 PM

Im having a hard time to write what i mean.. easy in danish, but hard in english:(
The main complaints are the screws that "screwed" me up XD and i had expected abit more for the price (without tax)... but nevermind. i have the kit, and its mounted, so f... it.
and when i wrote my first post today i had been trying for about ½-1 hour.

And about the post editing, i dont see why i wasnt allowed to write that i wasted my money??!!

ta_man · 05.04.2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Moller123456 !

Im having a hard time to write what i mean.. easy in danish, but hard in english:(
The main complaints are the screws that "screwed" me up XD and i had expected abit more for the price (without tax)... but nevermind. i have the kit, and its mounted, so f... it.
and when i wrote my first post today i had been trying for about ½-1 hour.

And about the post editing, i dont see why i wasnt allowed to write that i wasted my money??!!

Seems to me that is completely a result of your impatience and not Mike's fault. If you waited to see what was in the kit before buying it there would have been no unmet expectations: you would have known exactly what you were getting before spending money. Then you could have decided whether it was worth it.

If money was wasted, it was wasted on instant gratification, rather than Mike's kit. Put the blame where it belongs.

RC-Monster Mike · 02:37 PM

You expressed that you "wasted your money" several times already - just nothing specific. Perhaps you will write it a few more times? The screws "screwed you up" is pretty vague and hard to imagine that it would cause such a reaction. The parts I made require metric screws, which were included. "More for the price" is vague as well - the kit includes everything needed to convert the vehicle - what more would I include? The price is based on the work to make the kit - I don't mass-produce the items in China by the thousand - I actually make them myself in small batches where I have control over the quality, material and also have the ability to update between batches. Without something specific I must assume you don't have much specific to write about, aside from the cost of the kit? The price was established before you made the purchase. Well, thanks for buying the kit and hopefully you can drive it some and get some value out of it - perhaps you will fell less like you "wasted money" after relieving some stress with a good old fashioned rc car driving session. If you think of anything specific I can do to improve the kit, please feel free to express these thoughts. :)

mohanjude · 05.04.2010, 04:06 PM

I purchased 2 kits from Mike in my initial order. I live in the UK and have to pay for International shipping too. I liked the Ten-T conversion so much that I went to order more conversion kits but found only 1 in stock to my disappointment. I did order it anyway.

The kit is not junk - it includes everything to get the conversion going - yes there a couple of screws that I needed to complete were missing but it was no big deal. The battery strap was a bit short - again a double sided velcro strap sorted that out. BrianG photos were easy enough to use as a reference to put the conversion together. I think the kit is simple enough to work out where the screws need to be fitted. After all this is the fun part of the conversion in my opinion.

I think the kit is well designed - today I wanted to lock the centre diff and had to only unscrew 4 screws to take the who assembly out. Did not have to move the motor or mess with the gear mesh. So I think Mike has designed the kit well when it comes to maintenance and repair.

I agree that at first glance the kit appears 'expensive'. However there is nobody else out there who takes the time to design these motor mounts and kits including custom Delrin spur gears.

I asked another chap sometime ago to make me a custom FG motor mount for me and he wanted a minimum order of 20 mounts. I could not afford to pay for 20 mounts. That would have been thousands of dollars. I cannot machine these parts myself so I am sure glad somebody out there like Mike is willing to do it for a reasonable price. So I think considering this - it is only fair that Mike tries to make a living by selling this custom mounts and kits.

I am certainly waiting for the Baja conversion and will be happy to pay the asking price.

Mohan

Moller123456 ! · 05.04.2010, 04:23 PM

i have to say sorry, i have had a bad day, and im ill.. when those things come together i can get pissed off by anything. the pr*** is ok without coustoms tax, but thats not your problem.
i dont wanna reply to all the posts, but thanks to the people who have tried to help.

Nard Cox · 04:00 AM

Man, sometimes I'd wish that I'd live in the US. Shipping and taxes can be a real pita and I can understand that it might set / piss you (Moller) off, though of course Mike isn't to blame for that. Also the rising dollar isn't helping making stuff cheaper anymore.

As for Mike, an improvement might be an additional picture of what people can expect to receive when buying the kit, so not mounted.

Yesterday I saw an ARTR (except RX and TX) TenT on eBay for just $167.50, unfortunately shipping was $100 (WTF?!) otherwise I would have bought it and would probably ordered Mike's kit...

ps. Mike you don't cheat on customs value for your products right?

Nard Cox · 05.05.2010, 12:16 PM

My edit doesn't work so a double post : For some reason the seller relisted the item for $225 buy now.

suicideneil · 05.05.2010, 06:01 PM

If it helps, use Bing translator:

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Actually works quite well :)

Moller123456 ! · 05.10.2010, 01:08 PM

FINALLY my ten-t is running:D or was... took me 1 ½ hour to almost total it XD Battery/esc mounting thing flew out and ripped the esc to reciver wire in half:( So not sure if thats dead... but it drives really well, the suspention is to soft tho... doesnt help that i have 2x 4s 4000mah batteries in it... (have to, to get the 150 amps) that the xerun kind of needs... i hope i can get it running again... ;) Byw. i have running video (not of the crash) should i post it on youtube? or has everbody here got the ten-te ?

BrianG · 05.10.2010, 01:18 PM

Sorry to hear about the battery/ESC mount coming out. That surprises me as mine has been through some pretty horrific crashes and it stayed put. Did you use all the screw mount points?

BTW: Just because the ESC is capable of delivering 150A doesn't mean you need to have batteries that can do that. The current draw is a function of vehicle, gearing, etc. If geared for the typical ~40mph, one pack is more than enough. I can easily run 40 minutes on a 4s 5000mAh Turnigy pack, which equates to a measly 7.5A average draw, with bursts around 50-60A. That is the equivalent of 1.5C continuous and 12C burst.

Moller123456 ! · 05.10.2010, 01:24 PM

Well it was a huge crash:D a 10-15 meters high steep hill, and gave it a boot full:D
I found out that some of the screws were to small, so took it all apart now, and searching for better ones... there was only one holding the mounting thing, that was still holding on the gold screwy thingy (sorry, have no idea what ist called) so it took me about 1.2 hours to make it better :P

I know it doesnt need 150amps but my flightmax 5000mah 20C was hot after abit of time, and i dont wanna take chances with lipo;)

05.10.2010, 02:40 PM

Hey Moller, I would love to see the video. I haven't had a chance to video mine yet.

BrianG · 05.10.2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Moller123456 !

...I know it doesnt need 150amps but my flightmax 5000mah 20C was hot after abit of time, and i dont wanna take chances with lipo;)

Really?? Do you have it geared abnormally high or something? This is a 10th scale truggy with about the same power requirements as a 1/8 buggy, so it surprises me that the 5Ah 20C pack was hot.

Moller123456 ! · 05.10.2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG

Really?? Do you have it geared abnormally high or something? This is a 10th scale truggy with about the same power requirements as a 1/8 buggy, so it surprises me that the 5Ah 20C pack was hot.

Not haot, but abit warm... ok it was winter so freaking cold around me, so that might be why they seemed warm. it was in my old E-revo:) and almost stock gearing