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07.03.2010, 05:06 PM

I'm very critical, as it's what I do for a living for the past 11 years.

I do know that the Castle ESC's put out the power. Heck I still help peeps out from different states with their Castle ESC's for dragracing. So I'm not putting Castle down by any means. However, for 1/8 scale dragracing and speedruns(what I like to do), I want the most out of a ESC. That means proper cooling. As it sits right now with the two MMM that I have, heat dissipation is achieved by the fet board and that little patch of thermal adhesive to the heatsink. I prefer that all fets make contact with the heatsink. If you have an efficient setup, there wouldn't be a problem in it's current state. But I need max cooling in this Texas Heat.


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07.03.2010, 06:09 PM

Oh damn... I just bought a MGM ESC lol. Never had a MGM before, curious how it will perform.


I understand :) But one of those 2 goes in the TM Buggy right?
   
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07.03.2010, 11:03 PM

My camera is not good enough to show the gap between the heatsink and fets.

The MMM will be used in the GTP. Power, speed and brakes will be compared against the RX8.

I had an MGM before. Awesome power untill one day it just smoked.




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My camera is not good enough to show the gap between the heatsink and fets.

The MMM will be used in the GTP. Power, speed and brakes will be compared against the RX8.

I had an MGM before. Awesome power untill one day it just smoked.

is it a short on the reciver wiring on the left one? ether way its kind of nasty soldering job
   
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12.25.2010, 06:41 PM

Also look at the negative wire connection it's not the same soldering as the positive one.
   
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12.25.2010, 07:57 PM

yeah i have seen that on discovery, but shouldent it be none ore little variation in such case?

also im sure all the small components in the board is done in such way, but it may be the wires is done some kind of manually, ether way you can clearly see the orange and red have contact. also the black and brown

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12.25.2010, 10:41 PM

The battery leads, receiver lead and switch wires are soldered onto the board by hand. This can lead to some variations of the solder connection.

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07.04.2010, 05:22 AM

I know ideally the heatsink should make direct contact with the fets, and the glue is just there to hold it in place ( gap filler ), but I wonder if you could use some thermal glue and squeeze it into the gaps so that the remaining fets and heatsink are linked to some degree?
   
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07.04.2010, 10:16 AM

I have some 3M Thermally Conductive adhesive somewhere that I could try to use.


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12.24.2010, 04:44 PM

Any resuslts of the 3M compound?
How did you remove the heatsink?
   
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12.24.2010, 04:50 PM

This is put on the backburner. Family addition keeps me too busy.
But to remove the heatsink, you can use a heatgun and a razor.


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12.24.2010, 05:19 PM

Thanks!
I don't like the stock heatsink mounting.
Ps I've also this nice V5 board:-)
   
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12.25.2010, 07:30 PM

None of it is soldered by hand. The solder is a sticky paste and when heated in an oven it flows, there will be some variations in the way it flows depending on the wires


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12.25.2010, 11:41 PM

IIRC the best way to get the heatsink off is to put the esc in the freezer overnight and then a small amount of pressure between the sink and a fet should pop it off. Clean off the glue, and use thermal paste. Not sure of the brand but generally the paste has a better ability to transfer heat than the adhesive. So use anhesive on the 4 corners and paste on the rest. Also a good idea to make sure the base of the heatsink is perfectly flat, so use a good straight file or a piece of sandpaper on some glass. Use the min of paste/glue.
   
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12.26.2010, 06:36 AM

Thanks for also a good tip for removing the heatsink.
Mine new esc soldering job could a little better.









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