new traxxas motor

[jhautz]

When do they hit the stores?

[zeropointbug]

Well, the XL stampede and rustler are $200 CAD, I think the BL version is prob going to be ~$350, just a guess. maybe they will sell it for less, as they have a lot of leverage with there R/C empire.

[crazyjr]

I bought an XL5 recently, to just play with but got bored with it and FLMed it, now i'm thinking 6s and XL1200 for it. I may get the stampede version and keep it stock and beat it into the ground

[aqwut]

That is pretty that traxxas did that.. i was waitin' for a long time for this.. but it's almost useless to buy, they still have stock plastic gears...

160+ Amps.. maybe it's an MGM 12.160 in disguise?...

[skellyo]

Originally Posted by aqwut

That is pretty that traxxas did that.. i was waitin' for a long time for this.. but it's almost useless to buy, they still have stock plastic gears...

160+ Amps.. maybe it's an MGM 12.160 in disguise?...

Plastic gears?

What plastic gears?

[Dafni]

Originally Posted by skellyo

Plastic gears?

What plastic gears?

That is a very nice tranny! The crawler guys will love it!
I'm still not too crazy about the motor mounted on plastic.

[Finnster]

Skellyo, I'm not quite sure what you are getting at, but you seem to be misreading my posts.

The Novak comment was bc that motor looks just like a Velocity series motor, from the solder tabs to case design to other features. IE, it seems they are the supplier of the Novak motors built to Novak's spec. Not the other way around. Novak doesn't manufacture motors themselves that I know off, so would subcontract it out, and it looks to be GM based on your link. I always thought the velocity motors were high quality, just the ESC I was not a fan of and sold it off.

Castle does not manu their motors either, that's why you see them talking about searching for diff motors that can meet their spec. They even talked to Neu at some point, but abandoned the idea due to cost.

Otherwise, I didn't suggest this for MTs. Quite the contrary. However I was saying, if it was announced that someone would be releasing a 200A BL car ESC this week (first manstream ever produced!), what would have been the Vegas odds that it was TRX? No one saw this one coming...

Overall its a great development for the elec hobby and will only push BL more mainstream and force more competitive and capable controllers. Yeah for everyone.

[NovakTwo]

Originally Posted by Finnster

....The Novak comment was bc that motor looks just like a Velocity series motor, from the solder tabs to case design to other features. IE, it seems they are the supplier of the Novak motors built to Novak's spec. Not the other way around. Novak doesn't manufacture motors themselves that I know off, so would subcontract it out...

Actually, every brushless motor sold by Novak has been designed and built here in sunny California.

[skellyo]

You guys talking about it doing either sensored or sensorless haven't seen the GM Genius 80 ESC, have you? It'll do either or as well and is already available for under $200. It doesn't have as high of a current rating, but if you're using a sensored motor, 200A doesn't matter since no sensored motors on the market pull that kind of juice.

Links to the GM-Racing products:

Motor:
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=97230
(Yes, this will run on a MM as a sensorless motor...confirmed by an employee of Team Orion who rebadges this motor to sell in the US)

ESC:
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=2894

IMO, the velineon isn't any better of a product that anything else currently on the market. Also, having to buy it as a combo only will severely hamper the sales of it to guys like us.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by skellyo

You guys talking about it doing either sensored or sensorless haven't seen the GM Genius 80 ESC, have you? It'll do either or as well and is already available for under $200. It doesn't have as high of a current rating, but if you're using a sensored motor, 200A doesn't matter since no sensored motors on the market pull that kind of juice.

Links to the GM-Racing products:

Motor:
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=97230
(Yes, this will run on a MM as a sensorless motor...confirmed by an employee of Team Orion who rebadges this motor to sell in the US)

[Holy Novak 5.5R Batman! ]

ESC:
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=2894

IMO, the velineon isn't any better of a product that anything else currently on the market. Also, having to buy it as a combo only will severely hamper the sales of it to guys like us.

That's what Ebay chopshops are for :)

However, I have my doubts to whether this would be a good ESC for 1/8 use, but i wouldn't be suprized to learn a larger version is waiting in the wings. Still can't believe it was TRX to be the 1st to release a mainstream 200A BL esc for the car market. Shocking...:eek:

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by Finnster

That's what Ebay chopshops are for :)

However, I have my doubts to whether this would be a good ESC for 1/8 use, but i wouldn't be suprized to learn a larger version is waiting in the wings. Still can't believe it was TRX to be the 1st to release a mainstream 200A BL esc for the car market. Shocking...:eek:

I don't know why it's hard to believe, Traxxas has done many firsts.

First real Monster Truck. First multi use electric MT. First MT that broke all the rules and could compete with Truggys.

The only other BL RTR out there was some Losi junk using Novak overstock systems that barely go faster than the stock brushed system.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

I don't know why it's hard to believe, Traxxas has done many firsts.

First real Monster Truck. First multi use electric MT. First MT that broke all the rules and could compete with Truggys.

The only other BL RTR out there was some Losi junk using Novak overstock systems that barely go faster than the stock brushed system.

Suprising b/c we've been waiting on the 200A MMM for over a year, heard and read about the Tekin R1MT, but still waiting on specs & release date, etc etc, but go home last night and all of a sudden TRX has a 70mph BL Rustler with a esc with current capabilities we've been dying for. Esp since they just did the XL5.

Of all the things on my list of "what can happen today?", that news fell somewhere below Anna Nicole arose from the dead and is dancing at the strip club, and peace breaks out in Iraq with sunshine, rainbows, democracy and candy.

[skellyo]

Originally Posted by Finnster

Suprising b/c we've been waiting on the 200A MMM for over a year, heard and read about the Tekin R1MT, but still waiting on specs & release date, etc etc, but go home last night and all of a sudden TRX has a 70mph BL Rustler with a esc with current capabilities we've been dying for. Esp since they just did the XL5.

Yeah, but who cares how much current it can do when it'll only do 3S that we know of? That's not real beneficial in most of our monster/8th applications.

[skellyo]

Originally Posted by skellyo

Quote:
Originally Posted by skellyo
You guys talking about it doing either sensored or sensorless haven't seen the GM Genius 80 ESC, have you? It'll do either or as well and is already available for under $200. It doesn't have as high of a current rating, but if you're using a sensored motor, 200A doesn't matter since no sensored motors on the market pull that kind of juice.

Links to the GM-Racing products:

Motor:
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=97230
(Yes, this will run on a MM as a sensorless motor...confirmed by an employee of Team Orion who rebadges this motor to sell in the US)

ESC:
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=2894

IMO, the velineon isn't any better of a product that anything else currently on the market. Also, having to buy it as a combo only will severely hamper the sales of it to guys like us.

Originally Posted by Finnster

That's what Ebay chopshops are for :)

However, I have my doubts to whether this would be a good ESC for 1/8 use, but i wouldn't be suprized to learn a larger version is waiting in the wings. Still can't believe it was TRX to be the 1st to release a mainstream 200A BL esc for the car market. Shocking...:eek:

Since when have you seen a Novak 5.5 with adjustable timing based on moving the hall sensor position? The GM/Orion/Peak all have that feature if they're run on a sensored ESC. Also, they can be run on a MM without issue, whereas the Novak is PIA on a MM. Besides, if Novak OEM'ed these motors for the other guys, they'd likely already be ROAR legal, which they are not, but built to ROAR specs. I can assure you they are completely different motors...just check out the spec sheets...tons of differences between them.

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br..._chart_web.gif

http://www.graupner.de/fileadmin/dow...0121_97225.pdf

Just the kv difference alone is 7400 for the Novak 5.5 versus 6100 for the GM 5.5. That's more than a difference between loaded/unloaded.

[silentbob343]

MSRP is 300