So what's with UE? - Page 4 - RC-Monster Forums

captain harlock · 09.06.2007, 06:55 AM

Yeah, that makes sense. I hope Mike will not give his back to the RC community like Robin is about to do. Mike's buisness is growing bigger now, and I think I might get a Mugen MBX-5T PROSPEC and convert it to brushless while keeping the SM as shelf queen.

Procharged5.0 · 09.06.2007, 10:33 AM

I think someone like Mike or Jamie should buy the rights to the Supermaxx designs. I'd consider it myself but I have no way of producing the products even with the designs. I'd have to contract it all out. I don't have enough time or cashflow to undertake a project of that magnitude at this time in my life. I like to, but I can't.

ssspconcepts · 09.23.2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Procharged5.0

I think someone like Mike or Jamie should buy the rights to the Supermaxx designs. I'd consider it myself but I have no way of producing the products even with the designs. I'd have to contract it all out. I don't have enough time or cashflow to undertake a project of that magnitude at this time in my life. I like to, but I can't.

Your best guess...what would it cost? Where could the parts be produced?

ClodMaxx · 09.06.2007, 11:16 AM

wow, that would be a big investment - i'm sure robin wouldn't let them go cheap, if at all.

al - do you have shots of your SM? and were you finally able to view the ones in my thread? i'd like to see yours!

captain harlock · 09.06.2007, 12:32 PM

Yes of course. Here you go with plastic rims:

captain harlock · 09.06.2007, 12:34 PM

With the aluminum( got bent in one of my speed run...130 dollars away in an instant):

Procharged5.0 · 09.06.2007, 12:40 PM

Nice looking truck Al!

Thanks for sharing the pics!

captain harlock · 09.06.2007, 12:42 PM

No problem, Pro!=)

ClodMaxx · 09.06.2007, 12:45 PM

wow - nice truck al!

sorry to hear about the wheels - i'd be bummed! i'm keeping my SMRW for show only, and the pro-line's for running.

GorillaMaxx360 · 09.06.2007, 09:57 PM

one question for you captain. i have the ue shock setup(4) on my maxx and mine is a bit heaver than yours (probably more than a bit, FLM chassis 2 6 cell side by side, single speed, ect...). how do you like those springs are they a bit soft are they just right how are they for jumping. I am using blue in front and black in back and it is a tad stiff but it can take a good 5ft drop to concrete with out bottoming out. is this sound to stiff. what are your opinions. thanks

squeeforever · 09.06.2007, 10:28 PM

I understand what ya'll are saying, but I wouldn't really say FLM is ripping off UE designs. Yea, they came out with the Hybrids, but they don't do anything except increase strength and allow 1/8th diffs. The VBS changes so much its not even funny. Personally, I don't think they really ripped UE off on that one. I mean hell, 5 years ago, long before I even knew of UE I was sitting there wondering why nobody thought of making the diffs/bulks one piece like alot of 1/8ths and like the Dominator (I think its the Dom). Besides, the shock towers, I don't really think you can say that was ripping off UE either. Its not like there the first company to come out with a shock tower that has more than a couple holes...The G1 shock towers had like 12 and that was several years ago. Granted, the 4 point chassis design is more of less a UE design, so it appears, but does the Dace Predator chassis have the same design as well?? Just my 2 cents...

captain harlock · 07:25 AM

Nice debate, really( so long as we are not going to get hotheaded).
I myself do not consider FLM is spoiling UE's work. The FLM chassis, suspension, bulks and so forth are a direct replications( well, somewhat). The Hybrids are merely the Maxx's normal gear cases and bulkheads fused together, but slightly bigger to hold the 1/8 diffs.

The UE parts are simply incredible and sometimes I just think they're too much to be used in racing with all the overline workmanship and precision.
I'm only sorry that I got it and figuered out it's a HUGE waste of money to drive away all the shininess of the UE parts in a few runs. They're tougher than anything out there, but it's even tougher to scratch them and make them grimmy......no wonder Serum sold his RacerX, no wonder Papa sold his SuperMaxx, and no wonder if I'm going to sell mine as well.
Too cute to beat them..=(

captain harlock · 09.07.2007, 07:28 AM

GM360,
I use red springs for the rear and white for the front. I do not make jumps with my truck, so I have no worries.
I think you should use four shocks for each end with reds and whites and some slightly heavy weight oil.

GorillaMaxx360 · 09.07.2007, 05:20 PM

thanks
i will consider the four shocks for my ride. but for now i want to get it running so my funds are shifting twards my last 5 items (high temp pads, strobe, spur gears, pinions, and neu motor) but after it is running i will consider this.

Procharged5.0 · 09.24.2007, 09:48 AM

Since the UE parts are essentially "Intellectual Property" IE: Engineering Designs, R&D, CNC Machine Programs and not something with an established market value (or something tangible like actual product or 7075 bar stock) it's pretty hard to say. My wife values businesses for a living so I could ask her for her professional "guesstimate" on this but without her researching into the value of proprietary designs or info from Robin it might be pretty tough to get a good answer to that question.

As far as reproducing them goes, that would be less of an issue. Locating a contract machine shop with appropriate machining & production capabilities would be no big deal (I have connections with Rousch Racing for example. They have massive high performance 5-Axis machining centers). Having the finances to contract them for building the product, or investing in a great enough number of parts to make the cost-per-unit value acceptable is another story.