bye bye PC hello Mac

[JThiessen]

Anybody here know enough about laptops to know how the MAC can get away without having a cooling fan? Is it because they use a smaller battery, which doesn't get as hot?

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by What's_nitro?

I will not argue that Macs are capable machines, and for those who can't bother to take care of their system, are much simpler to use. Please do not take that last statement as an implication of laziness.

I just can't justify the extra cost for an Apple system versus a PC. Price vs. performance is unmatched if you build a PC for yourself. I have the unfair advantage of being technologically intuitive, so maintaining a PC is no biggie. In fact, I don't even have any type of protection on my system. It's been that way for 5 years and I haven't had a problem that was caused by outside sources other than myself.

I can vouch for the burned legs c/o HP laptops. My sister had an HP... Seems like companies who start with the letter "A" make good stuff. As in Acer or Asus. My sister has the Acer, and my Mom has the Asus. Both of which I recommended to them, and they are working great.

So I guess all I can say is: "To each his own." ...and leave it at that.

I always built my computers as well. The last OEM I had (other than the said cheapie laptop) was an Acer with a Pentium 75, which I later overclocked to 90mhz, w00t! My most favorite pc was a ~'98 asus 440bx MB based computer. It started life as a 300mhz slot1 celeron/ 24mb ram, and was my main comp until ~2004, when it had an OC'd P3 tualatin @1.6mhz/ 512mb ram that was faster than a lot of the early P4s. You actually had to rewire some of the pins on that last processor to get it to work in the bx. Def not mac friendly lol.

I had a p4 comp for a little while, but soon replaced that one with a C2D/socket 775 board in 2005. The S775 processors are just now really being phased out, so I may hold on a bit and pick up a quad core for cheap and just run that for a several more years. I don't game anymore, so the most intensive thing I need it for is occasional vid editing. Getting 7-8yrs out of a comp and staying relatively state of the art the whole time is awesome. I always bought inexpensive but quality components, and rarely ever had issues. Still have and use older Hdds and dvd drives that have moved from one comp to the next. The 10yo black Chieftec case I have still looks sweet.
Lost lots of usb and firewire cards to static tho... I doubt I've spent $1500 on comp parts in the last 10 yrs.

[Modding_out]

You will burn in cyber space for defecting to the company with the halve eaten apple logo

[E-Revonut]

Originally Posted by Modding_out

You will burn in cyber space for defecting to the company with the halve eaten apple logo

I guess I'm gonna burn then! The first computers I ever used where Apple IIE's back in elementary and middle school. Never had a computer living at home, got my first one in 2003. Started with a HP desktop that did ok, went to a Compaq laptop that lasted 4 years and never gave me a problem until it suddenly died. My HP laptop that just died was 3 years old and has been nothing but a POS for the last year and a half. I got my first and only ipod when they first released the ipod video like 4 years ago or however long ago it was. It has never given me a problem and it's used everyday, I'm sure the battery isn't up to par anymore, but since it's hooked up to the radio in my truck and is powered that way it doesn't matter anyways. My iphones have been great phones and have kept me in touch with people and the internet even when my HP laptop had died. I can honestly say I don't think I will ever look back!

[rawfuls]

Originally Posted by E-Revonut

I guess I'm gonna burn then! The first computers I ever used where Apple IIE's back in elementary and middle school. Never had a computer living at home, got my first one in 2003. Started with a HP desktop that did ok, went to a Compaq laptop that lasted 4 years and never gave me a problem until it suddenly died. My HP laptop that just died was 3 years old and has been nothing but a POS for the last year and a half. I got my first and only ipod when they first released the ipod video like 4 years ago or however long ago it was. It has never given me a problem and it's used everyday, I'm sure the battery isn't up to par anymore, but since it's hooked up to the radio in my truck and is powered that way it doesn't matter anyways. My iphones have been great phones and have kept me in touch with people and the internet even when my HP laptop had died. I can honestly say I don't think I will ever look back!

I'm in the same boat as you are with the iPods!

I bought my very first iPod, the 5.5G iPod Video, a month or two later the iPod Classic came out, boy was I pissed, 50 more GB for the same price? Yes, I actually use 30GB..

I STILL use it every day (when I go running, boy is it heavy now compared to the iPod Touch), I switched out the battery, which is quite easy to do btw, I'd recommend you do it if you need to..

And the iPod touch I now have, has left me happy!

One day on a Pupil-Free Day (noschool!) my hard drive decided to explode on me, literally, no way was it coming back, if it weren't for my iPod, I would've gone insane, I was on my iPod Touch day and night! Talking to friends via AIM, and even on RC-Monster!

My English teacher told me a funny story the other day, she's kinda mad at Apple, even though I guess you could consider her a diehard Apple fan.

Her very first laptop (A PowerBook G3 or G4 I believe), oldest of the old, she dropped it at least 20 times in class (once in my period! Smack down on the screen and hard drive), and it still works perfect.

The other day she dropped her newer Macbook Pro on her bed and it went poofed. Hard drive was corrupted.

She was furious because all our essays were saved on there

Needless to say I got an A..

Then she saw the "iPad" and thought it was a joke, an oversized iPhone without the phone!

Threadjack over.

[rawfuls]

Originally Posted by Finnster

I always built my computers as well. The last OEM I had (other than the said cheapie laptop) was an Acer with a Pentium 75, which I later overclocked to 90mhz, w00t! My most favorite pc was a ~'98 asus 440bx MB based computer. It started life as a 300mhz slot1 celeron/ 24mb ram, and was my main comp until ~2004, when it had an OC'd P3 tualatin @1.6mhz/ 512mb ram that was faster than a lot of the early P4s. You actually had to rewire some of the pins on that last processor to get it to work in the bx. Def not mac friendly lol.

I had a p4 comp for a little while, but soon replaced that one with a C2D/socket 775 board in 2005. The S775 processors are just now really being phased out, so I may hold on a bit and pick up a quad core for cheap and just run that for a several more years. I don't game anymore, so the most intensive thing I need it for is occasional vid editing. Getting 7-8yrs out of a comp and staying relatively state of the art the whole time is awesome. I always bought inexpensive but quality components, and rarely ever had issues. Still have and use older Hdds and dvd drives that have moved from one comp to the next. The 10yo black Chieftec case I have still looks sweet.
Lost lots of usb and firewire cards to static tho... I doubt I've spent $1500 on comp parts in the last 10 yrs.

You may wanna look into the AMD Athlon II X4 620... Its' a rather cheap quad core.. Runs well, even gaming..

I've still an intel fanboy using an AMD CPU.. I need Intel to go onto a sale!

[rawfuls]

I'm pretty sure it does have one, it's just a lot smaller and has a lower decibal rating.

Also willing to be on the newer MacBooks, the aluminum unibody aids in spreading the heat (pretty much a heatsink, just a lot bigger)..

Could be wrong.

I think my brothers old, white, regular MacBook had a small fan on the bottom..

[riverat1540]

my macbook gets hot sometimes, and the fans kick up to higher rpms, I use istat nano in my dashboard and it monitors all my good stuff like that, it does get warm thought ive seen my cpu at around 180 degrees which makes for a warm lap for sure. do the new macbooks not have fans? mine is about 2 years old, but it is the intel based macbook.

[rawfuls]

I thought all the MacBooks were intel-based?

[riverat1540]

when i bought mine some were and some were not, and alot of the downloads for mac are intel or non intel specified
here is what is on my mac
Hardware Overview:

Model Name: MacBook
Model Identifier: MacBook3,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MB31.008E.B02
SMC Version (system): 1.24f2
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled

[rawfuls]

Ah, okay, didn't know that, mah bad.

Mac themselves have stated they don't know how to make a $500 computer that isn't a piece of crap. That explains alot right there....

[E-Revonut]

I honestly don't know how there could be a fan on mine, there are no openings in the case for airflow, so even if there was a fan it'd have no fresh air for cooling.

[riverat1540]

theres vent on the backside under the screen that runs right up to where it folds thats where mine blows the hot air out. i dont hear it most of the time unless it gets hot, but right now my istat says my fan is running at about 1800rpms and i cant even hear it.

[rawfuls]

Yeah, there are fans on the sides and out back...

On the iMac desktops (the screen ones), it's on top of the monitor..

EDIT: Apple is tricky about hiding those vents..