MaxAmps Race Edition Lipos

[BrianG]

We compare them however we want. If we want a battery that will maintain 3.6v/cell at 60A continuous and 3.4v/cell at 150A bursts, we just look through graphs to find the packs that meet or exceed those criteria.

Or, instead of poring through graphs, have the label say something like "will maintain X v/cell at Y A continuous with a Z*F temperature rise over ambient". Maybe include a similar line for burst (and state how long the burst is and how often it is repeated).

Either way, C rating alone is useless without other parameters. A company could claim 50C, but neglect to mention that is for 1 micro-second at 3.0v/cell with a cell temp of 200*F. Whereas another company could claim 20C but it's rated for continuous duty at 3.6v/cell with a cell temp of 100*F. You'd probably go for the 50C cell based on C rate alone, but after reading the rest, the 20C cell is obviously much better.

[slimthelineman]

Best lookin? Linc I think that worn out box of lady parts on your avitar is all the evidence we need! Really though if maxamps could pull it together and put up the evidence to back there stuff it would be awesome to see an american company take hold of the market and thrive. It will be hard to compete with the walmart priced overseas companies though as long as there are cheapskates like me in the mix. Not that I'm not willing to shell out extra dough for the good stuff but so far the cheap crap has worked just as well for me and it's only 100 C...

As for stuff being made in china, most American companies only care about the bottom line and will have it made in the north pole if that's were they can have it done the cheapest.

[BrianG]

Whatever method shows how the packs actually perform is fine with me. But personally, if you are in the market to get proper lipos, you should already be somewhat informed. And if not, that's where the forums come in.

[JERRY2KONE]

The bottom line here is that if you sell good products on a constant basis then people will flock to your store and keep the cash flowling in. If you constantly sell crap, then you will get the share of the market you deserve.

James is the best looking person on RCM??? James I think you have been drinking too much tiquilla or sniffing too much of your paint fumes at the shop.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

... James is the best looking person on RCM??? James I think you have been drinking too much tiquilla or sniffing too much of your paint fumes at the shop.

Well, he does have a purdy mouth...

[Thomasis]

This is my first post on this, so take it with a grain of salt.
I have always tried to buy American when it comes to the RC hobby.
There are many times you can't, but I have given MA a try on lipos 5 times.
Two of the packs came with bad cells, two were not to minimum requirements and one that I bought a year ago still works like a champ. I don't want to hurt anyones feelings here but I feel like I wasted a ton of money on an American product that does not hold true to their labling. I have had great success with Turnigy brand so far at 1/3 of the cost of MA and better quality.
I won't go back to MA. You can't put an inferior product on the market at a premium price, sell it to a customer and expect them to come back and that's it. It would be one thing if they sold these batteries for what they were worth, but they are not. 4 out of 5 batteries that don't do what they claim, shame on me for buying the last 4.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by 76Bentley

James, you kill me man!

Yeah, that one just came to me... After I read about how the entire rescue operation involved Americans and american made equipment, and obviously was funded by america completely.

Originally Posted by slimthelineman

Best lookin? Linc I think that worn out box of lady parts on your avitar is all the evidence we need!

What are you talking about? You can't hurt that stuff, it just keeps coming back for more!!!

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

James is the best looking person on RCM??? James I think you have been drinking too much tiquilla or sniffing too much of your paint fumes at the shop.

Nah, quit drinking, and wear a respirator. Have you checked in a mirror lately? Not to kick someone when they are down, but really?

Originally Posted by BrianG

Well, he does have a purdy mouth...

And the top of your head is very attractive too Brian.


Now that i have successfully added nothing to this thread... I patiently wait for graphs...

[josh9mille]

perhaps MA is not a good example of buying quality american products.

How American is the product when it is only assembled in America? The cells are Chinese if I'm not mistaken.

[slimthelineman]

Yes probably. But American motor cars are the same way to. The parts are manufactured else where but assembled here. Like i said before not many things are actualy MADE here in America. It's hard to produce things here if we don't even make the componets here. Very few companies make everything in house in America. Klien tools is and always has been made in America but who knows where they get the materials from? At this point I don't really care where it comes from or how it got here I want performance/price ratio that is reasonable. It's unfortunate to feel this way but we are all products of our enviroment. I'm a third gen union worker but the world is so shortsided right now there is no real benifit to holding on to the American product ideal as much as it hurts me to say that. The fact is we as a nation demand bently grade products at walmart prices. Something that isn't possible and as close as it comes are the outsorced products we get for cheap. Some are better than others as they are designed here but produced overseas to get the best quality/price for the situation we are in with the economy and beligerant consumers.

[JERRY2KONE]

What everyone is saying is mostly true, but we are talking directly about MAXAMPS and this is their chance to redeam their products and marketing stratigy. Not to mention saving face by stopping all of the BS with how they sell LiPo's and how they are treating their customers in general. Watching CC and how they opperate has been a refreshing experience from the consumer perspective and a lot of compaies could learn a few things from them. We all know that some of their tactics might not be the best for profits, but it keeps people comming back for more just because they make us all feel respected to some level. Brandon you guys might want to rethink your approach and learn a few things from the CC business model. Now how about leveling the playing field here and start providing some evidence that supports your claims with this new 150c LiPo?

[suicideneil]

Originally Posted by slimthelineman

Yes probably.

http://www.rcbros.com/forum/forum_po...?TID=6922&PN=1






Now, take a look at TrueRC- they hand assemble packs, have a good warrenty system, and dont charge a 300% profit margin. Spot the difference between MA and TrueRC? Both American companies, both working from home, both assembling chinese cells as made to order packs, but only one of them price-gouges and takes advantage of inexperienced hobbyiests with grossly exaggerated claims of C ratings.

[slimthelineman]

Sorry for the tangent everyone. Let's just say that we can't stop some companies from their practices it is their decision. I will agree though products should be sold for what they are. Most in this hobby are smart enough to see between the lines but the ones that aren't could easily be turned away from a single bad experience. Let's try to stop that so the hobby industry keeps growing. The whole 150c deal has alot of people miffed but let's just deal with the hype with healthy skepticism until we see some actual proof. I don't believe it and wouldn't buy a pack but maybee if I saw a graph or something I would consider it momentarily.....

[Arct1k]

Enoughs enough... lets not cover the same old ground.

Its like ground hog day...

[suicideneil]

Okay then:

Wise man say, when releasing fantastic new lipos with massive C rating, you must first test the lipo to determine it has a fantastic C rating. If you produce a graph of your test result, is it not pertinent to post the graph up at the same time- why delay and risk the wrath of the non-believers?