Castle looking ESC coming to hobbyking

[Pdelcast]

Yeah, this looks lawsuit worthy. I'm having our lawyer check it out.

[molak]

Even if the ESC is copied component by component, Without castle support and firmware it´s just a Green chinese ESC...

[Dadx2mj]

Hobby King has done this with products from Traxxas, Spektrum, and Futaba just to name a few. No surprise they will continue to expand their knock off inventory has long as people keep buying their junk.

atleast they give an decent quality at an decent price, just to bad they obvious is trying to imitade others design.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by freddy

atleast they give an decent quality at an decent price, just to bad they obvious is trying to imitade others design.

There is a difference between imitation and counterfeiting. When you make something look indistinguishable from another manufacturer, hoping that people believe it is the same product, that's counterfeiting. That's what this looks like to me.

[SPC Racing]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

There is a difference between imitation and counterfeiting. When you make something look indistinguishable from another manufacturer, hoping that people believe it is the same product, that's counterfeiting. That's what this looks like to me.

Yes, and it is not only unethical, it is illegal in most cases.

[Dadx2mj]

Originally Posted by freddy

atleast they give an decent quality at an decent price, just to bad they obvious is trying to imitade others design.

I am sorry but to me that is laughable. Clone or knock off products are never of good quality. There is no logical way they can offer a product of even close to the same quality when they are charging a fraction of what the original quality product costs.

But WHY, WHY does (almost) everyone defend CC? And why does HK gets bashed like this? About 90% of those CC defenders buy cheapass Zippy (Turnigy/Flightmax/whatever they're called) LiPo's.

That MAY be true in some cases but myself I wont touch anything from HobbyKing. I refuse to support a company that I know is in my perception steeling from others.

Originally Posted by Dadx2mj

I am sorry but to me that is laughable. Clone or knock off products are never of good quality. There is no logical way they can offer a product of even close to the same quality when they are charging a fraction of what the original quality product costs.

My statmend was not about the clones

i have alot of wires, connectors, chargers and batterys from them and all is of pretty decent quality at an decent price.
especially like the 10c charge rate and the ultra nice 1000 watt icharger.

im no fan off rebranding chinese lipo and sell them at 3x the price, then you could get an korean made lipo at the same price

well how simulare is this compare to the cc(other than green heatsink)?

I would say, dont worry about it. it isent a competitor, just an copy ment for the chinese marked as they do with all well known brand names.
Dont think it will steal any of the marked

The only way stop the copying is higer income as they cant make them cheaper and also make it possible for them to purchase "the real deal"
And yes i know low income isent a excuse to make abvious copys, but one of the reasons as why its become like this.

I also belive hobbycity has an american owner

[junkman]

Originally Posted by Dadx2mj

Hobby King has done this with products from Traxxas, Spektrum, and Futaba just to name a few. No surprise they will continue to expand their knock off inventory has long as people keep buying their junk.

kinda taking it back a few days here, but what do they have that is traxxas, spektrum, or futaba cloned? I'll admit these do look castleish, but not seen anything on the others.

junkman hobbyking have cloned TRX connectors and also clone Futaba and Spektrum Rx but not the surface ones. Yet.

[junkman]

Is a rx that is compatible with futaba and spektrum cloning? How is it any different from novak, tekin, dynamite, making rx's that were compatible with futaba, airtronics, and jr, 20 years ago? I don't remember anyone thinking twice about it back then. I had forgotten about the trx connectors. I do wonder why none of the china companies clone traxxas stuff? I'd say it is one of the most popular selling brands. They clone the 5b, couple tamiya cars, but not a revo, or slash 4x4, and there is some reason, curious to why that is. To knez I'd take the hc deans over the real ones anyday, and I really blame this one on deans. The hc have the ribs and are easier to unplug, and don't loose their springyness near as quick as the real deal. I have replaced several real ones with the hc's because they were wore out. Why deans doesn't update theirs, or at least lower their price for not having these features I have no idea. I am not trying to come off all pro-china here. I do buy quality stuff, have 5 mmm, 3mm, 3 mamba 25's, and a bunch of motors, and they are geat products. For what they can do, and the price of a mmm, I do not think they can be beat.

[josh9mille]

Originally Posted by junkman

I do wonder why none of the china companies clone traxxas stuff? I'd say it is one of the most popular selling brands. They clone the 5b, couple tamiya cars, but not a revo, or slash 4x4.

I remember seeing a revo clone some years back, and of course a tmaxx clone as well....if not several different tmaxx clones. There have also been LST clones all over ebay, but havent seen one for a few yrs. The LST clones were a direct copy right down to the paint scheme even, just stickers that were different but had the "LST" look to them still.

First of all(!), I use LOTS of Castle Creations products and spend LOTS on them. Products I bought so far: 2 Mamba-25, MMP, MMM, about 5 CM20 motors, a 2200kv motor, ICE HV 160A and about 10 motors from their sale. I'm happy with (most of) these.
But WHY, WHY does (almost) everyone defend CC? And why does HK gets bashed like this? About 90% of those CC defenders buy cheapass Zippy (Turnigy/Flightmax/whatever they're called) LiPo's. Why don't they buy the real Flightpower, Hacker, Kokam cells? These company's suffer because of HK... I just don't understand it. Castle Creations is being over-praised imho.

Again: I bought lots of Castle products and I really like them but almost everyone acts like Castle is a god or something ...


I think I'll be bashed too now, oh well... :)

[thzero]

Well batteries are disposable. You use them and then get rid of them when they come to the end of their life. Sure electronics like an ESC can also wear out, etc. but you'll go through a lot more batteries than ESCs.

Frankly CC makes a quality product at a competitive price. Hacker, Flightpower, etc. make a quality product, but not at a real competitive price. No way they could sell for what HK, etc. do, of course. However, the difference in price is quite extreme. For bashing, Flightpower, etc. dont make a lot of sense but for racing, sure its another story.

Another reason too, is that often Flightpower, etc. don't necesarily make batteries in the cell/ratings that bashers are interested in.

Originally Posted by Byte

But WHY, WHY does (almost) everyone defend CC? And why does HK gets bashed like this? About 90% of those CC defenders buy cheapass Zippy (Turnigy/Flightmax/whatever they're called) LiPo's. Why don't they buy the real Flightpower, Hacker, Kokam cells?