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10.30.2010, 09:26 PM

Ask, and you shall receive.

COMPLETE SUPER IN DEPTH LIPO COMPARISON!

Turnigy-

Pros-
Sweet graphics on the numbers
"High Discharge Lipo Battery"
Large Label with lots of numbers and words!
Cons-
Boring Blue

Probably one of the better batteries out there, this pack has a label that covers almost all of the front face of the pack. The label has detailed graphics and lots of stuff going on. More stuff going on = more power in the pack.

Hyperion-

Pros-
It's neat and organized... I guess...
Cons-
Boring
Boring Blue color
Label does not take up the whole pack

Probably the worst battery you can buy. It's shrunk in boring blue heatshrink and has a tiny little label on it, and it doesn't even say anything about "super high discharge" so it obviously sucks.

Thunder Power-

Pros-
LIGHTNING ON THE PACK OMG OMG
45 C in BIG letters
Lots of colors
Cons-
Clear on the sides, who wants to see a battery?

IT HAS LIGHTNING ON THE PACK! Nothing beats this pack, nothing. Lightning can produce 300000 amps! Thats like a true 27000c rating! Put this in your car and your motor will probably explode!

Maxamps-

Pros-
"Race Edition"
True 150c is the biggest number ever printed on a pack!
Sweet graphics on a big label
Cons-
Fire on the pack, lipos don't mix well with fire

The second best battery, right after the thunder power. It has the biggest C rating ever posted on a battery, and it has true on it too so you know they aren't lying! Plus it's a race edition so it's better for racing than the other, non race edition batteries.



This ends my completely unbiased, well documented, and very in depth analysis and comparison of 4 major Lipo packs used in the hobby to this day. I hope I shed some light on any confusion you had on your future battery purchases.
   
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10.30.2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cody.McP View Post
Ask, and you shall receive.

COMPLETE SUPER IN DEPTH LIPO COMPARISON!

Turnigy-

Pros-
Sweet graphics on the numbers
"High Discharge Lipo Battery"
Large Label with lots of numbers and words!
Cons-
Boring Blue

Probably one of the better batteries out there, this pack has a label that covers almost all of the front face of the pack. The label has detailed graphics and lots of stuff going on. More stuff going on = more power in the pack.

Hyperion-

Pros-
It's neat and organized... I guess...
Cons-
Boring
Boring Blue color
Label does not take up the whole pack

Probably the worst battery you can buy. It's shrunk in boring blue heatshrink and has a tiny little label on it, and it doesn't even say anything about "super high discharge" so it obviously sucks.

Thunder Power-

Pros-
LIGHTNING ON THE PACK OMG OMG
45 C in BIG letters
Lots of colors
Cons-
Clear on the sides, who wants to see a battery?

IT HAS LIGHTNING ON THE PACK! Nothing beats this pack, nothing. Lightning can produce 300000 amps! Thats like a true 27000c rating! Put this in your car and your motor will probably explode!

Maxamps-

Pros-
"Race Edition"
True 150c is the biggest number ever printed on a pack!
Sweet graphics on a big label
Cons-
Fire on the pack, lipos don't mix well with fire

The second best battery, right after the thunder power. It has the biggest C rating ever posted on a battery, and it has true on it too so you know they aren't lying! Plus it's a race edition so it's better for racing than the other, non race edition batteries.



This ends my completely unbiased, well documented, and very in depth analysis and comparison of 4 major Lipo packs used in the hobby to this day. I hope I shed some light on any confusion you had on your future battery purchases.
this is the best post ever


now you know freezy


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10.30.2010, 11:22 PM

That's a great comparison!
   
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10.31.2010, 07:11 AM

RAOFLMAO, Good job !


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I agree - 10.31.2010, 09:08 AM

I have to agree with this one. The MaxAmps pack is surely the best looking Lipo in the bunch, which has to mean that they are the very best for our money. We should all rush right out and get a few packs, right?


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10.31.2010, 12:06 PM

Yeah its funny that the Hype is so plain looking but is probably the best out of the 4. And then there is the MA pack........ Ill just leave it at that.


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10.31.2010, 11:21 PM

So, thats^ alright, but an honest comparison of packs, specs & prices isnt? Explanation required please as to why my post was deleted, not impressed right now... ( still havent seen any evidence to prove the 75/150C rating either on these MA lipos ).
   
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Believe - 11.01.2010, 12:13 AM

Neil you cannot honestly believe that we are going to acquire proof of this can you? I mean really? 150c honestly? I'm not falling for this. Ture 150c rating? Science fiction at best.


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11.01.2010, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cody.McP View Post
Ask, and you shall receive.

COMPLETE SUPER IN DEPTH LIPO COMPARISON!

Turnigy-

Pros-
Sweet graphics on the numbers
"High Discharge Lipo Battery"
Large Label with lots of numbers and words!
Cons-
Boring Blue

Probably one of the better batteries out there, this pack has a label that covers almost all of the front face of the pack. The label has detailed graphics and lots of stuff going on. More stuff going on = more power in the pack.

Hyperion-

Pros-
It's neat and organized... I guess...
Cons-
Boring
Boring Blue color
Label does not take up the whole pack

Probably the worst battery you can buy. It's shrunk in boring blue heatshrink and has a tiny little label on it, and it doesn't even say anything about "super high discharge" so it obviously sucks.

Thunder Power-

Pros-
LIGHTNING ON THE PACK OMG OMG
45 C in BIG letters
Lots of colors
Cons-
Clear on the sides, who wants to see a battery?

IT HAS LIGHTNING ON THE PACK! Nothing beats this pack, nothing. Lightning can produce 300000 amps! Thats like a true 27000c rating! Put this in your car and your motor will probably explode!

Maxamps-

Pros-
"Race Edition"
True 150c is the biggest number ever printed on a pack!
Sweet graphics on a big label
Cons-
Fire on the pack, lipos don't mix well with fire

The second best battery, right after the thunder power. It has the biggest C rating ever posted on a battery, and it has true on it too so you know they aren't lying! Plus it's a race edition so it's better for racing than the other, non race edition batteries.



This ends my completely unbiased, well documented, and very in depth analysis and comparison of 4 major Lipo packs used in the hobby to this day. I hope I shed some light on any confusion you had on your future battery purchases.

Exactly what I was thinking, good job! This should be stickied, and maybe mailed out as a brochure, or at the very least, included with all traxxas vxl vehicles.

I wonder how TP get the lightning power in the pack? Do you think they use a large funnel to gather the lightning? With the pack at the bottom of the funnel, of course?! It would have to be a wooden funnel as wood is the only material that could contain that kind of raw energy power (save for shrink wrap).

I will have to call TP and see if they will share their "lightning funnel" secrets with me. Hmm, I could use a funnel like that to harness the power of the sun too. The possibilities are endless. Sun powered blenders, completely wireless, just like my cordless toaster. Make a daquari anywhere. Just take a moment to let that sink in, amazing.............

Do we think Maxamps is actually a german guy who was some sort of physicist during ww2? Maybe he invented litium batteries while he was on an acid binge? Sounds plausible to me, given the large quantity of info that I found on wikipedia concerning acid binges. I have read that the number one user of acid happens to be televangalists. They use it to keep themselves up and creative during those long commercial breaks.

I am glad we figured all of this out. I was having a few sleepless nights, but a fair amount of halloween candy put all of these things in perspective and allowed me to think rationally. That and the marvelous post I quoted above. I can only credit my mother and the fabulous thunderbirds as my inspiration to finally find a use for stale bread.

That brings me back to the cordless toaster, I was having difficulty when using a conventional toaster while in the bath. Not onlt did I have to run an extension cord into the bathroom, but I also had to watch out that the toast or pop tart did not land in the bath after the toaster ejected it (upgraded springs on my model). So I devised a cordless toaster. Just cut the cord off, made it totally portable, you guys should try this, as good or better than when you made the switch from tighty-whities to boxers, its that good.

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11.01.2010, 01:55 AM

The number of consecutive "ha" sequences I would like to use to reply to that post would exceed the character limit for replies on this forum.
   
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Neil you cannot honestly believe that we are going to acquire proof of this can you? I mean really? 150c honestly? I'm not falling for this. Ture 150c rating? Science fiction at best.
Exactly, thats why we all want some proof of the ratings; otherwise it just proves MA are full of poop and rely on gullible/ niave noobs & 12 year olds to keep them in business.
   
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11.01.2010, 12:21 PM

So judging from the graph that was posted at a 50 amps discharge rate are we expecting to see the same battery hold 487.5 amps continuous? Objectively speaking, I really dont think that battery should be tested with any higher amperage being drawn from it given the voltages that were shown. We all agree 50 amps is a lot. So we are saying an 10C continuous pack with bursts of 20C is more than sufficient for most applications at a 6500mah rating. Yet I see ratings of 25C, 40C and now 75C continous being advertised. I understand the need to post these higher numbers as I'm sure they generate sales, but eventually these numbers come back to haunt manufacturers in the forum posts.

Brandon,
You have a great attitude, and if you keep it up I believe you can the company you now work for some good. Any manufacturer that openly argues with potential buyers in these forums just does more damage than good. This is a tough industry to be in. I dont think I have ever tested a battery that has lived up to its claims in terms of advertised C rating vs real world numbers.

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11.01.2010, 09:37 PM

It basically comes down to one thing: The IR (internal resistance) of the cells.

A lower IR allows the cell to output more current, with less voltage drop. Period. No way to argue with Ohm's law. A cell with a higher C rating should have a lower IR than a lower C rated cell.

If there could ever be a standard rating for cells that would be it. IR @ 70*F.

If anyone sees a flaw in that plan let me know, because I don't see it right now.

Edit: For example, in order for a 975A current to even be possible with ANY cell, their IR can be no greater than 3.8 milli-ohms (0.0038 ohms). This is at the nominal 3.7 volts.

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11.01.2010, 09:48 PM

The only flaw I can see is that IR is not linear with current draw. It's pretty linear until a certain point (where the chemistry simply cannot flow more electrons), then IR ramps up heavily.
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11.01.2010, 09:55 PM

True, but if this rating system were actually adopted, you would see MFGs rating their cells at the point immediately before the IR started to increase- since that would be the maximum performance of the cell.
   
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