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lincpimp · 04.16.2009, 09:55 AM

I pulled the center diff last night, and I guess that I just did not get it filled correctly... Looked to be about half full so I added some 100k to it and threw it back together. Much better, it does not blow the front tires up anymore, and it will wheelie easily. Handles much better than the lst, that is for sure.

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Originally Posted by drkdgglr

This is what a Muggy does to people:

Yeah, with a few more tweaks it should be good to go.

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Originally Posted by ilpufxit

Here's my one of a kind Muggy with 8ight body and custom chassis brace. Fresh from battle, it will do a wing stand at almost any speed! Not as agile as my 8ight-T but what an awesome machine.

It is a huge buggy! Too cool.

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Originally Posted by riverat1540

if u put truggy tires on a muggy is it still a muggy?lol

Hmm, good question. Maybe we should call it a fuggy!

ilpufxit · 04.16.2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by riverat1540

if u put truggy tires on a muggy is it still a muggy?lol

I'll leave that one to the philosopers but what I can tell you is that motor temps will drop, runtime will increase and handling will improve.

riverat1540 · 04.16.2009, 10:34 AM

i cant argue with that, not one bit

lincpimp · 05.30.2009, 08:52 PM

Finally got around to doing some work on the muggy. Put rpm arms, lst2 rear hubs and front c hubs and some new area al knuckles. Running 17mm hexes and some dish wheels with badlands on it. I also swapped the hacker c50 11xl out for a Neu 1521 1y. Motor temps are down about 20f, and the battery temps are a bit lower too, worst spot on the pack as 125, and the bulk was at 115. The esc fan comes on a bit less too. So the neu is a bit more efficient. Does not feel much more powerful, except the brakes are a bit better. I ran it back to back today once with the hacker and the other time with the neu. The neu will be staying in it, and I plan to put the other 1521 1y in the lst. Good motors, worth the price that is for sure.

So my findings are that the hacker c50 xl motors are about halfway between a 1515 and a 1521.

On a side note I tries a MMM/2200 combo in the lst. geared for about 42 with the dish/badlandss combo it did very well. I was surprised how well it moved the heavier lst around, and temps were very good too. I look forward to more 5s testing with the flux motor in the stretched savage. I have a feeling it will be a great combo in that too.

TexasSP · 05.31.2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp

On a side note I tries a MMM/2200 combo in the lst. geared for about 42 with the dish/badlandss combo it did very well. I was surprised how well it moved the heavier lst around, and temps were very good too. I look forward to more 5s testing with the flux motor in the stretched savage. I have a feeling it will be a great combo in that too.

I think there is a lot to be said for the CC 2200. It has been running like a champ in the LST2 on 6s. Even when it was geared at 60 or so last week the motor never got above 145 and the batts stayed below 120. I am gearing it back down because I do not want to press the MMM in the Texas heat.

If I keep reading this thread I will have to buy a muggy soon as well. Maybe the Revo will find a new home to make room for the muggy.....

Of course I tried to buy that muggy that you have

But it's all good! Glad you are liking it!

lincpimp · 05.31.2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP

I think there is a lot to be said for the CC 2200. It has been running like a champ in the LST2 on 6s. Even when it was geared at 60 or so last week the motor never got above 145 and the batts stayed below 120. I am gearing it back down because I do not want to press the MMM in the Texas heat.

If I keep reading this thread I will have to buy a muggy soon as well. Maybe the Revo will find a new home to make room for the muggy.....

Of course I tried to buy that muggy that you have

But it's all good! Glad you are liking it!

I doubt that I will sell the muggy. Only issue with it is that you have to use a lower kv motor if you want to use 6s. Not enough reduction in the truck to get around 40mph out of it if you run more than 40k motor rpms...

nitrostarter · 05.31.2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP

If I keep reading this thread I will have to buy a muggy soon as well. Maybe the Revo will find a new home to make room for the muggy.....

Thats what just happened to me yesterday. Traded Revo roller for LST2 roller. Hope to get it by the end of the week.

After seeing the 2200 combo in the improperly set up LST linc was running, I was amazed at both the LST and the 2200 combo. I was sold. I can't wait to try it out!!!

TexasSP: any pics on your lst yet? Curious on the setup.

lincpimp · 05.31.2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nitrostarter

Thats what just happened to me yesterday. Traded Revo roller for LST2 roller. Hope to get it by the end of the week.

After seeing the 2200 combo in the improperly set up LST linc was running, I was amazed at both the LST and the 2200 combo. I was sold. I can't wait to try it out!!!

TexasSP: any pics on your lst yet? Curious on the setup.

You should see the muggy run with the 1521 1y and the same badlands that were on the lst, it is crazy. I do need to run taped tires, as the center diff will let the fronts balloon quite a bit. But even when they are 7+" they still do not vibrate much, balancing is definitely a must do!

For 5s in the lst the 2200 is the way to go, I am very impressed with the castle motor!

TexasSP · 05.31.2009, 03:02 PM

I meant I tried to buy the muggy from the guy you got it from, you beat me to it by like 5 minutes.

06.03.2009, 01:46 PM

Linc,

I read you plan on putting 23mm 40series wabash wheels on your Muggy. Do they have the same offset as the losi 20mm 420series dishes?

lincpimp · 06.03.2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP

I meant I tried to buy the muggy from the guy you got it from, you beat me to it by like 5 minutes.

Are you sure? I got it from a guy on rctech that had no pics about 1 yr ago...

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Originally Posted by drkdgglr

Linc,

I read you plan on putting 23mm 40series wabash wheels on your Muggy. Do they have the same offset as the losi 20mm 420series dishes?

Seems to be about the same offset as the 420 wheels, but I prefer the spoked look. A buddy gave me the wheels and tires in trade for a set of the same 40 series bowties mounted on 14mm dish wheels. I need to reglue them and balance them out. Got the 23mm CEN hexes coming, so the muggy will have some fresh shoes on it soon enough.

06.03.2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp

Seems to be about the same offset as the 420 wheels, but I prefer the spoked look. A buddy gave me the wheels and tires in trade for a set of the same 40 series bowties mounted on 14mm dish wheels. I need to reglue them and balance them out. Got the 23mm CEN hexes coming, so the muggy will have some fresh shoes on it soon enough.

Are you sure you weighed them correctly? It just seems very light for a 40series wheel/tire combo. I believe you weighed the 40 series wabash/crimefighter combo @230grams? The stock weigt is 330grams. So I could save 400grams on rotating mass vs the stock setup?

TexasSP · 06.03.2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp

Are you sure? I got it from a guy on rctech that had no pics about 1 yr ago...

Yup, that was it. I talked to the guy about it but you already had dibs. I got interested in them after bdebde posted his up. It's no biggy, I was just jacking with you.

lincpimp · 06.03.2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by drkdgglr

Are you sure you weighed them correctly? It just seems very light for a 40series wheel/tire combo. I believe you weighed the 40 series wabash/crimefighter combo @230grams? The stock weigt is 330grams. So I could save 400grams on rotating mass vs the stock setup?

I will weight them again, and weigh all 4 to make sure that it is not a fluke. The 0 offset is not the same as the losi 420 wheels. They look closer to a 1/2 offset. I will be buying some more proline wheels in half offset and we will see how they do. The O offset look good with the boltons on a savage that I have, not too wide.

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Originally Posted by TexasSP

Yup, that was it. I talked to the guy about it but you already had dibs. I got interested in them after bdebde posted his up. It's no biggy, I was just jacking with you.

You have a good memory... I can barely remember my own name sometimes...

riverat1540 · 10.06.2009, 12:58 PM

just wondering how the mmm is holding up in the muggy with the 1521, the 2200kv was not a good fit which i knew but pushed it around great, but the speed control could not handle it, im waiting on my replacement so i can try the medusa 36-80-2000kv which unsullied spy is having goot results with just a bit on the hot side due to gearing. also what does your truck weigh completed, im at 13.5lbs with the rollcage