A123 Motorcycle Battery?

[redshift]

"I just wanted to free up some weight and space. The factory tool kit is in the trunck on the bike"

Leave them home. Tools are for motorcycles with two names....dig.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Metallover

Zero Point Bug

It is shocking how dumb that reads....

Originally Posted by redshift

Well I won't speak for him but Zero Point Energy is probably what ZPB had in mind, free energy, metascience, etc......

Makes bit more sense.

Originally Posted by redshift

"I just wanted to free up some weight and space. The factory tool kit is in the trunck on the bike"

Leave them home. Tools are for motorcycles with two names....dig.

Yeah, I know. Just nice to have some tools on the bike.

[zeropointbug]

Originally Posted by redshift

Well I won't speak for him but Zero Point Energy is probably what ZPB had in mind, free energy, metascience, etc......

Yes, you pretty much said it... I got the Zeropoint 'bug'.

It is said, that in the volume of a cup of coffee, or any beverage, take your pick; there is enough energy to boil off all the water on planet earth. Some number to the 90th power or something Joules or energy. However some physicist say that it is virtually limitless... even if it's the first number I said, it would still seem "limitless"...

The big question is: Can it be tapped?

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by zeropointbug

The big question is: Can it be tapped?

I have asked this many times, but I am usually staring at the dance floor at the club...

[zeropointbug]

ooooohhhh LOL

[Metallover]

Time to attempt the RCM most off topic post of all time. Linc, you have 8,888 posts. Just earlier today, BrianG had 11,111 posts. I just got 1500 even. And ben has 4100.

[zeropointbug]

and I have 1972..... .......the year I was born..... ......... j/k

[othello]

You might find this video informative.

When used in 1p configuration you can get around 100-120A @2-2.5V per cell (depending on cell temperature and discharge level) -> i have several Eagletree logs i recorded with 10s1p A123.

[zeropointbug]

Othello, yah, they can discharge like there is no tomorrow. My 7s1p pack can deliver 2000watts in my Revo @ 140+amps.... 2300mah!!!!!!!

[_paralyzed_]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Just nice to have some tools on the bike.

you as the pilot isn't enough?

[Thomas]

Hi,

we've been using A123 4s2p 2300 mAh for a Suzuki GSXR 600 in our Formula Student car for two years. On the test bench, I've measured 25 A cuntinuous for the starter motor and this was supplied by 4s1p. In the car, there's fuel and water pump, a fan and a shifter magnet which pulls 50 A.

I've found that 4s packs of LiFe packs are prefectly compatible with bike engine and their alternators. For your 1200 ccm bike, I'd try 4s3p or 4s4p.

Further, I've been using 4s1p in my 125 ccm bike for a year, but might switch to 2p.

[redshift]

"The big question is: Can it be tapped?"

Tesla, Reich and a handful of others knew the answer to that didn't they......

We may never know the magnitude of suppressed technologies, certainly could
be a much different world.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Hi,

we've been using A123 4s2p 2300 mAh for a Suzuki GSXR 600 in our Formula Student car for two years. On the test bench, I've measured 25 A cuntinuous for the starter motor and this was supplied by 4s1p. In the car, there's fuel and water pump, a fan and a shifter magnet which pulls 50 A.

I've found that 4s packs of LiFe packs are prefectly compatible with bike engine and their alternators. For your 1200 ccm bike, I'd try 4s3p or 4s4p.

Further, I've been using 4s1p in my 125 ccm bike for a year, but might switch to 2p.

Good, real world experience, thanks for that info. I scored another agm batt and threw it in tonight. The bike is still missing at low er rpms, and a bit intermittent on mid to top end. Feels like just 1 cylinder, but the bike is a fuel injected bike, so I am at a bit of a loss to figure out what is up. I may drop the motor and pull the plugs (damn monocoque frame again, gets in the way of the head) but I had a buddy so that recently, so I doubt it is that. Maybe needs the fuel injectors cleaned? I may just drop it off at the bike shop and pay them, work is a bit busy and I have other projects to waste my time on!

If I do get the bike fixed, I have a feeling that some a123 cells will make their way in there. Or I may sell it and go back to a 900, really liked my 99 9r. Or I could do the smart thing and get something more like a std bike, the zzr1200 is nice, and the older zrx1100 bikes are fun to ride.

[lincpimp]

Re-visiting this thread...

Just sold the 12r... Yeah, it took a year. And then I happened upon a very nice condition Honda cbr1100xx blackbird... Paid 2k for it, 99 model with 27k miles. Nice nbike, just a tich slower than the 12r but way smoother (dual balance shafts) and it is a bit more comfortable. Will be even better with taller bars and some foot peg brackets to increase the leg room.

Seems like the battery is on its way out, and this bike is very lacking in useable trunk space. So I will be whipping up a nice 4s3p a123 pack for it. I do need to put a meter on it and see if the stator is still working. Seems to go dead overnight, so it may just be a weak battery or some sort of parasitic draw. I already have the cells, picked up 3 6s1p packs a while back and I guess this is the best use I can think for them!

I will post up some pics, will have to wait till the following week as I am leaving from AZ on thurs morning. Vacation time!!! Just a few days, but I will be seeing an old friend and will enjoy the time away from work.

[josh9mille]

I had to look on ebay to see what these batteries even looked like, I have heard of them but never saw one. Is there a difference between A123 and Life batteries? Also all the A123 packs i saw on ebay had balance taps, so if they need to be balance charged how would you do that while being charged by your stator/altenator?