Eat like a Brasilian!!!!

[lutach]

Originally Posted by redshift

Yeah it sure is. But processed food goes back many years, we are just seeing it steadily worsen. Corporate greed will trump all, including human health. MSG, right along with Aspartame are two of the major contributors to ailments that are often misdiagnosed. I happen to be hypersensitive to MSG, small amounts trigger a headache. Well that's the same "headache" they used to call Chinese Food Syndrome. Because the Chinese restaurants would use it in high proportions. MSG has been shown to corrode the blood-brain barrier, as well as being a major cause of low attn span, irritability and restlessness. So what I was saying above about misdiagnoses really does matter, how many people are on the Ritalin because they eat ramen noodles every day? I used to love em, now I know if I have some I will be more or less a zombie the rest of the day. Not knowing any better, I might be the one on Ritalin or some other bizarre evil substance.

We have little blue pills to get you hard, we have little green ones to get you to sleep, we have a red one for your depressed DOG fer chrissakes..

This ain't the world some of us grew up in.

How bad are the headaches? Do they happen after you eat something? I would love to know, this is very important and I'll explain as I go.

[redshift]

From Pink's link:
"Alarmingly, the rates of diseases such as cancer, obesity, diabetes, autism, depression, asthma and ADHD have also increased dramatically over this time."

What was I just saying..hmm. Thanks for that link Pink.

Check this one- www.dorway.com

Here is the list of 92 of the FDA's own known issues with Aspartame-

Abdominal Pain
Anxiety attacks
arthritis
asthma
Asthmatic Reactions
Bloating, Edema (Fluid Retention)
Blood Sugar Control Problems (Hypoglycemia or Hyperglycemia)
Brain Cancer (Pre-approval studies in animals)
Breathing difficulties
burning eyes or throat
Burning Urination
can't think straight
Chest Pains
chronic cough
Chronic Fatigue
Confusion
Death
Depression
Diarrhea
Dizziness
Excessive Thirst or Hunger
fatigue
feel unreal
flushing of face
Hair Loss (Baldness) or Thinning of Hair
Headaches/Migraines dizziness
Hearing Loss
Heart palpitations
Hives (Urticaria)
Hypertension (High Blood Pressure)
Impotency and Sexual Problems
inability to concentrate
Infection Susceptibility
Insomnia
Irritability
Itching
Joint Pains
laryngitis
"like thinking in a fog"
Marked Personality Changes
Memory loss
Menstrual Problems or Changes
Migraines and Severe Headaches (Trigger or Cause From Chronic Intake)
Muscle spasms
Nausea or Vomiting
Numbness or Tingling of Extremities
Other Allergic-Like Reactions
Panic Attacks
Phobias
poor memory
Rapid Heart Beat
Rashes
Seizures and Convulsions
Slurring of Speech
Swallowing Pain
Tachycardia
Tremors
Tinnitus
Vertigo
Vision Loss
Weight gain

[redshift]

Sorry for the late reply, and I only have a few minutes.

I use the word headache, but an MSG 'headache' is really much worse. For me it feels as if the neurons are not communicating, like you are walled off from your own brain. I can't tell you how much it takes for me, it's way less than what's in one ramen "flavor packet". It's been many years since I put 1 and 1 together, so I avoid everything with MSG. Sounds easy until you realize it's in almost everything. Salad dressings, bagged snacks, canned and dried soups, condiments, the list goes on and on.

So the headaches are not an issue now, and haven't been for a long time thankfully. The point here is that even if you don't have a reaction to it, it's still doing severe damage. As I said earlier, it's likely most people would never make that connection. They would be easy to convince that they needed this or that prescription to alleviate symptoms that they didn't know the true cause of.

I gotta run, post up your thoughts and I'll have more later.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by redshift

Sorry for the late reply, and I only have a few minutes.

I use the word headache, but an MSG 'headache' is really much worse. For me it feels as if the neurons are not communicating, like you are walled off from your own brain. I can't tell you how much it takes for me, it's way less than what's in one ramen "flavor packet". It's been many years since I put 1 and 1 together, so I avoid everything with MSG. Sounds easy until you realize it's in almost everything. Salad dressings, bagged snacks, canned and dried soups, condiments, the list goes on and on.

So the headaches are not an issue now, and haven't been for a long time thankfully. The point here is that even if you don't have a reaction to it, it's still doing severe damage. As I said earlier, it's likely most people would never make that connection. They would be easy to convince that they needed this or that prescription to alleviate symptoms that they didn't know the true cause of.

I gotta run, post up your thoughts and I'll have more later.

Ok, so let me go into details of why I wanted to know. My daughter eats the same kind of food most Brasilians eat. She loves rice and beans (Not canned beans or that microwave rice) and from time to time she'll eat meats like steak, chicken and fish. Now, she doesn't get any headaches at home, but she already had 3 situation in school where I had to go get her due to her having headaches. I have similar headaches, but mine is tension headaches and it feel like things are just exploding in my head, but here's how things are similar. She usually throws up and takes a nap afterwards and she wakes up like nothing happened and the same happens to me. I mentioned her headaches to her doctor and he said it's not food related, but how come this has happened 3 times so far in school and right after her lunch? It's not stress related as I make sure her daily routine is not stressful, only homework time seems to be kind of stressful for her, but I try to make it as fun as possible. Now, I might ask the health department to check the quality of the school food. What's funny is when she started school, I sent home cooked meals and she never had a situation like she's having now eating school food. I want to get her back to home cooked meals for school lunch, but she wants to eat what the other kids are eating.

[Finnster]

Who knows what is in the food they are serving at lunch. Its usually very cheap and poor quality ingredients. I think a lot of people are sensitive to MSG to some degree, so I think it is supposed to be labeled as an ingredient (not sure of its a requirement tho.)

I am surprized at all the allergies kids have these days. I can't ever remember a kid having peanut allergies when I was in school. Now you hear of all sorts of kids having it, and peanut products are generally not even allowed in school anymore.


Beyond the food additives and chemical perticides, the packaging of the material is something to beware of. Plastic has all sorts of chemicals that leech out. Never heat your food in plastic containers in microwaves. Microwaving saran wrap is especially bad.

[redshift]

Originally Posted by Finnster

Who knows what is in the food they are serving at lunch. Its usually very cheap and poor quality ingredients.

Wow. http://www.naturalnews.com/027872_am..._products.html

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by redshift

Wow. http://www.naturalnews.com/027872_am..._products.html

If you watch the movie Food Inc you can watch where they go into the BPI plant and show this processing. Of all the things you get to see, sadly this is not the most disgusting. Good movie, if you have netflix you can stream it online.
The owner of BPI claimed in the movie that 40% of the hamburger in the US contained his shit, and expected to reach well above that in the years to come.

Originally Posted by lutach

The people in this beautiful country should do something and put an end to all of this toxic chemicals in food, medicines and every other thing we put in our bodies. The US might need a big scare to make people think twice and start asking questions. I'm working on something that will start to shine the light on some things. It will take a while.

Its really disturbing how dirty our food has become. Not just in the things that are in it, but how its raised and grown and how much people are conspired against to remain ignorant of what their food really is and where it comes from.

What is just shocking to me, coming from a medical products industry regulated by the FDA, is what a complete dichotomy there is when it comes to regulations and enforcement. We make things that don't even go in your body, and we are constantly and vigorously inspected and monitored by FDA agents, who are very willing to micromanage and change our processes on the most remote possibility that a defect or inconsistency may occur in the process. Mind you, not in the product even, but a defect that may occur that would cause us to scrap the product well before it even left the door (and even if it did, not likely to cause any harm.)

OTOH, food processors can get away with bloody murder putting god knows what toxic crap in the food because its so soaked in bacteria and animal shit, proper labeling of the food is forbidden, and every effort is made to protect the industry and keep their practices secret, all at the expense of our health and tax dollars. EG, remember all the fights recently whether or not meat and veggies should can even be labeled as GMO or having undergone gamma irradiation prior to packaging? (because the food is so loaded with fecal bacteria, e coli, it needs to be irradiated just to be safe. Spinach anyone?)

I stopped buying the majority of the meat I buy at grocery stores a while ago as I knew some of this, and from previous experience growing up in a big Ag state and having a cousin owning a small ranch. I worked on it one summer in HS, and even took some animals to a local sm slaughterhouse and got to see a lot of shit no one ever gets/wants to see. The prepacked little slices of meat we see in the grocery is so far removed from its source its amazing.


I'm fortunate to have a very good farm market just down the road that sells excellent meat from animals living on their 450 acre farm across the street which I can see, visit, know the farmers and know what the animals are eating and how they are raised and fed. Not only that, the meat is marginally more expensive, but much higher quality and has tastes that grocery meat from factory farms never has. My cousins meat too would be considered sustainable/organic/whatever (tho his gun-toting redneck republican ass would never admit it, lest he be a loony liberal hippie) and the lab tests he had done it showed way lower levels of fat and cholesterol, and much higher levels of iron and vitamins that store bought beef. No antibiotics, hormones, animal products or other unnatural crap in the feed either and it also always tasted amazing.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Finnster

If you watch the movie Food Inc you can watch where they go into the BPI plant and show this processing. Of all the things you get to see, sadly this is not the most disgusting. Good movie, if you have netflix you can stream it online.
The owner of BPI claimed in the movie that 40% of the hamburger in the US contained his shit, and expected to reach well above that in the years to come.




Its really disturbing how dirty our food has become. Not just in the things that are in it, but how its raised and grown and how much people are conspired against to remain ignorant of what their food really is and where it comes from.

What is just shocking to me, coming from a medical products industry regulated by the FDA, is what a complete dichotomy there is when it comes to regulations and enforcement. We make things that don't even go in your body, and we are constantly and vigorously inspected and monitored by FDA agents, who are very willing to micromanage and change our processes on the most remote possibility that a defect or inconsistency may occur in the process. Mind you, not in the product even, but a defect that may occur that would cause us to scrap the product well before it even left the door (and even if it did, not likely to cause any harm.)

OTOH, food processors can get away with bloody murder putting god knows what toxic crap in the food because its so soaked in bacteria and animal shit, proper labeling of the food is forbidden, and every effort is made to protect the industry and keep their practices secret, all at the expense of our health and tax dollars. EG, remember all the fights recently whether or not meat and veggies should can even be labeled as GMO or having undergone gamma irradiation prior to packaging? (because the food is so loaded with fecal bacteria, e coli, it needs to be irradiated just to be safe. Spinach anyone?)

I stopped buying the majority of the meat I buy at grocery stores a while ago as I knew some of this, and from previous experience growing up in a big Ag state and having a cousin owning a small ranch. I worked on it one summer in HS, and even took some animals to a local sm slaughterhouse and got to see a lot of shit no one ever gets/wants to see. The prepacked little slices of meat we see in the grocery is so far removed from its source its amazing.


I'm fortunate to have a very good farm market just down the road that sells excellent meat from animals living on their 450 acre farm across the street which I can see, visit, know the farmers and know what the animals are eating and how they are raised and fed. Not only that, the meat is marginally more expensive, but much higher quality and has tastes that grocery meat from factory farms never has. My cousins meat too would be considered sustainable/organic/whatever (tho his gun-toting redneck republican ass would never admit it, lest he be a loony liberal hippie) and the lab tests he had done it showed way lower levels of fat and cholesterol, and much higher levels of iron and vitamins that store bought beef. No antibiotics, hormones, animal products or other unnatural crap in the feed either and it also always tasted amazing.

I hope people will have the opportunity to go to Brasil for the Olympics and taste our great food. The fruits are full of taste, the meat taste absolutely amazing. You can actually taste the freshness. Since you're in PA, could you e-mail me (brasuca2478@hotmail.com) price for different cuts of meat from your local farm Finnster. Ask them if it's possible to ship it to NJ. If possible, I don't want to be a pain. I like to keep the traditional diet in my house and I buy a lot of products from Brasil at the local Brasilian store. I prepare my rice and beans from scratch and eat a lot of the fish that I know comes from good places. The chicken I get from my uncle who buys it from a farmer he knows. The meat is the only thing I question, even though it says organic, it doesn't taste like the meats I used to eat in Brasil.

[redshift]

Agreed Finn, there were none of these ailments years ago, and I think 80% are food related. I had horrible heartburn for years, and couldn't figure that one out either. That was until a split I had with an ex in 2001. I got my own place and didn't get another microwave. The heartburn stopped. Completely. It has not been a problem since. Some time thereafter I stumbled on some very interesting info, and that is, microwave ovens were banned in the USSR and parts of Europe until around 1977. You can find that info or yourself. The plastics, and can linings (Bisphenol A) have been known to have strange effects on hormones, to the point they can change the sex of fish that are subjected to wastewater runoff. So take the plastic toxicity, and then irradiate it. Double whammy.

Luc, next time your daughter has one of her headaches, have her analyze it, Ask her if it's a 'pain' headache, or a hazy, disconnected feeling. And you could save yourself some legwork by simply assuming that the school food is chock full of additives. There are so many sources of the stuff now that I DO assume there are additives, until I've checked the labels.

I know many people are going to read this and write it off. If any of these symptoms sound familiar to anyone, PLEASE take the time and check things out. You could end up saving a life, literally. And maybe even your own.

I think my microwave burrito is done...

[lutach]

Originally Posted by redshift

Luc, next time your daughter has one of her headaches, have her analyze it, Ask her if it's a 'pain' headache, or a hazy, disconnected feeling. And you could save yourself some legwork by simply assuming that the school food is chock full of additives.

I ask her questions when she gets the headaches, but with her autism, she sometimes don't know how to describe it in a way that would help. She does said it's a pain and she points at her forehead. She also has a runny nose that never seems to stop running. Could she have a sinus problem? I doubt it sometimes as the headaches only comes after she eats and then she throws up. I asked her doctor what could be causing it, but he seems to damn lost. The thing that bugs me the most is, in what so called "Third World Countries", they know what causes most of the problems. I'll call my uncles to give them the details and see what they say. It would be amazing if they know what it is from me explaining it to them and know how to treat it. If they do, I'll go pay a visit to my daughter's doctor and open his eyes a bit. It's just too frustrating as a parent, because I want to best for my child and I feel powerless when there's nothing I can do.

[pinkpanda3310]

Originally Posted by redshift

I know many people are going to read this and write it off. If any of these symptoms sound familiar to anyone, PLEASE take the time and check things out. You could end up saving a life, literally. And maybe even your own.

I remember being 6ft and bullet proof. I was young dumb and full of......"wisdom". I think the majority of people are interested in health and well being. The ones who might pass it over are usually young and fit.

Originally Posted by lutach

I It's just too frustrating as a parent, because I want to best for my child and I feel powerless when there's nothing I can do.

That feeling of powerlessness for my children is about the worst feeling I have ever had.

[redshift]

That's gotta be rough, I wish I could be of more help.

First-world medicine is a joke Luc, there is no incentive to cure anything or anyone.

If you're cured, they're out of work. Many times people leave a "modern" hospital in worse shape than when they arrived. I'm happy to report being in relatively good health despite NOT being to a doctor in well over 15 years. If I had gone to the doctor about some of the food ailments I'd had, well.. who knows.

Modern med is all about patching you up and getting you out the door. Seldom is the root cause ever addressed. So I would definitely look elsewhere for advice, sounds like a good idea to ask your own family. I have no predispositions about thirdworld medicine, in fact it seems to me in most other countries they actually want to see people improve.

Imagine that....

Best wishes man!

[pinkpanda3310]

Redshift- quite often the doctors are not taught to find the root of a problem they are only taught patch ups. But doctors still give off the idea that they know what they are doing because people go to them thinking ' he's the doctor, he can fix me'.

In the 16th century, when witch hunts were all the rage, it was the doctors who invented the concept of the witch because they would cop the rap from the family of the deceased. Just as a matter of interest, it was nearly all caused by a mold that grew in the wheat in humid summers and then spread through the town by the baker. The doctor didn't know and couldn't explain it so to save his own hide said 'there's nothing i can do. It must be witchcraft.'

Barr the witch hunts, not much has changed.

[redshift]

Does panda know how the witches and broomsticks myth began? Hehe it's bizarre.

I don't blame individuals for the way the system is, I know 99% of them go to work and want to do some good. The problem is that few of them seem to see outside their education "box". They perform like robots almost, because there is no room for them to think or second guess any command that is handed down. In that manner the medical industry is a lot like the military. Many people can't hack it (pun intended) and change careers after lots of disappointment, years of school and essentially wasted knowledge.

The real problem arose, I think, when people started being viewed as a commodity, and not a human. You are a product to be repaired. Again, this is not pointing fingers at the individuals, but the system itself. That seems to be around the same time the doctors started receiving hefty kickbacks for basically being a white-coat drug dealer.

I happen to have a passionate hatred for the Pharma industry, that might show.
The doctors now are more likely to hand you a script, without so much as checking your pulse.

"Is the patient breathing?"

"No"

"Well shove these down his throat and have him call me in the morning"

[pinkpanda3310]

I got that myth from the most trusted of all media.. the TV. The mold is called ergot and gives the sensation of an acid trip and at the same time shrinks the veins and starves the body of blood/oxygen.

I agree with you completely about the medical industry, it's not the individuals. The head of nearly all researchers is on the payroll of the pharmicutical (spelling?) giants. When they get close to a cure they direct the research to another area. I can't back this one up. My mother has cancer and has read all about it, so I could reference you some books at a later date.

I have also come across individuals who refuse to look outside there assigned box. I had a skin specialist tell me that my daughter and I had a behavioural problem (eg shorter bath times) and that's why she had eczema. That made my blood boil. I could have snotted that cnt right there and then. I am convinced it is diet related but anyone i talk to says 'no, it makes no difference'.

Which comes back to the thread title- EAT LIKE A BRASILIAN