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12.10.2009, 09:28 PM

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Kind of makes one wonder doesn't it?

Not me.

I read many things on viruses being grown in labs. I followed a few stories of the Soviet Union doing it and the US.

This is all well documented by both the mainstream and indy media, and is by no means limited to the US and the USSR

What are Nature's viruses and diseases? I would rather get something nature made then man made if you know what I mean.

Good question, certain varieties of mold spores come to mind, as well as some animals' natural defense mechanisms, ie. venom, and poisonous bacteria (Gila Monster for example).
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Luc can you PM me your email addy again please?
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12.10.2009, 09:07 PM

It's all media hype. People were going nuts trying to get the vaccine because "people were dieing". From the few deaths I heard of locally, all of them had underlying illnesses(not to say healthy people won't die from it, they do).

But your odds of dieing on the way to or from work are better than dieing from swine flue....
   
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12.10.2009, 09:30 PM

Bah! These so-called "epidemics" are probably just the gov't way of keeping people in a panic so they don't think about things that really matter, like exhorbitant taxes and gov't corruption. Some people are simply not happy unless there is some drama, and the CDC provides it.
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Bah! These so-called "epidemics" are probably just the gov't way of keeping people in a panic so they don't think about things that really matter, like exhorbitant taxes and gov't corruption. Some people are simply not happy unless there is some drama, and the CDC provides it.
An onion consists of many layers, each one more pungent.

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Bah! These so-called "epidemics" are probably just the gov't way of keeping people in a panic so they don't think about things that really matter, like exhorbitant taxes and gov't corruption. Some people are simply not happy unless there is some drama, and the CDC provides it.
Yes and the Gov will always come up with new ways to do it.
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12.10.2009, 09:58 PM

Thanks, I made sure I saved it.

This is a very touchy subject, I'm not trying to 'inject' any drama.

Just a matter of interest for certain folks, and if you have some yourself, do research further.
   
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12.10.2009, 10:05 PM

I just figure something is gonna get us no matter what. Whether that is cigarettes, some special flu, bus, airplane, cancer, etc - when it's time to go, it's time to go.

I don't see this as being any different that smallpox or the plague back in the day. As we get better at curing things, there will be another deadly disease waiting around the corner.
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12.10.2009, 10:10 PM

I agree Brian, and the fact is most of us probably should have bitten it anywhere from a hundred to a thousand close-calls ago...
   
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12.11.2009, 03:48 PM

I got sick recently and assumed it was H1N1. I got over it in 4 days though, which makes me doubt whether I really had it or not. I did sleep like 12 hours a day though.


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12.12.2009, 02:21 AM

ive never had a flu shot in my life and ive never had the flu, yet every one of my friends every year gets the flu some time or another and they all have their shots a month or more before hand......

last needle i had in me was when i broke my back, and before that it was my knees and then when i had blood transfusions when i was 9, i dont mind needles at all but ive always avoided taking any form of common medication and getting any seasonal shots.
   
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12.12.2009, 06:49 AM

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ive never had a flu shot in my life and ive never had the flu, yet every one of my friends every year gets the flu some time or another and they all have their shots a month or more before hand......

last needle i had in me was when i broke my back, and before that it was my knees and then when i had blood transfusions when i was 9, i dont mind needles at all but ive always avoided taking any form of common medication and getting any seasonal shots.
Same here. I avoid taking whatever I can unless I really need it.

I never understood why people run to the doctors and get a boatload of antibiotics when they have a small cough, or take a bunch of Tylenol when they have a small headache.

I have terrible allergies (so bad that out of 365 days a year, a good 350 my nose is stuffy), and yet I only reserve taking my allergy meds for the really bad days (days where my eyes get puffy and watery and I literally sneeze every 30 seconds).

My point is you take this stuff when you don't need it, all you are doing is making it less effective when you do need it.


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12.12.2009, 11:54 AM

I never had or even heard about the flu when I used to live in Brasil. The moment my brother and I moved to the US and had to get a vaccine to get into the school, yes I stayed home for 2 weeks with the flu.

I know animal's immune system is way better then ours and to hear the viruses comes from them is kind of crazy. Now I know many will carry diseases, but from what I know they might be nature's own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antivenom

If animals are used to get us those, then a little virus wouldn't phase them.
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12.12.2009, 11:54 AM

Up here in Ontario, Canada, the government with the help of the media are working very hard to scare people into getting this H1N1 vaccine. People are in a panic over it, line ups of 9 hours and more at make shift flu clinics to administer the vaccine. People are sheep. I had a flu shot given to me once in my life, I was sick all winter that year. I never got one again. I don't plan on getting this H1N1 vaccine and no one will inject this vaccine in my boy's blood stream. It's got Mercury in it. And I just don't like the fact that it usually takes around 9 months to develop and test a new vaccine and this one was ready in a third of that time. I don't trust it and I don't trust any info that is forced fed to the public from the governments.


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MrCrash- thimerosol has been present in vaccines since day one IIRC, it's used as a "preservative". Was supposed to have been removed, but never really was.

Well, does anyone else fail to see the logic in that?

Pretty well known it's quite an anti- preservative for us!

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