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05.24.2010, 08:32 PM

I would warn others of his dishonesty, leave negative feedback every chance you got.


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Doubt - 05.24.2010, 09:39 PM

Benefit of the doubt does not even come into play in this case. That is for people who accidentally send you the wrong item because of multiple sales and promise to make good on the matter. This guy lied straight up with false advertising trying to decieve everyone hoping to get just one sucker to bite, and you did. So don't be fooled into thinking this guy feels sorry for what he did to you. Lower the hammer and let the cards fall where they land. Sure it was only $15 or $20(this time), but I don't throw my money away, and like I stated previously if he gets away with it once he will do it again to more people. He has to be shown that this kind of behavior will not stand, and if his name is smeared all over the thread and other places it will help to prevent him from cauing more damage in our hobby with false sales and rip offs.


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05.24.2010, 09:51 PM

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05.24.2010, 09:55 PM

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Pics of how you received it?
Here is where I took issue: the rear mounting holes are shredded, and the side is all melted and warped from a nitro exhaust pipe.

He also said this: "the warpness on the side was like that when i recieved it." And that was BEFORE making the excuse that it was new and he forgot to change the ad after using it. It was never new at any time in his possession but he still listed it as such. Those two conflicting stories basically prove he's just BSing.





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05.24.2010, 09:56 PM

Yeah, I'd definitely fight that.
Where was this lised?
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Hell no - 05.24.2010, 09:59 PM

OH HELL NO. If he would have sent me something like that after listing it as new I would have gone through the roof in anger. You need to post that pic up in the forum where you purchased it and share your story with everyone there so everyone there will know that this guy is a scum bag. I cannot believe that you even felt the need to come here and ask what we thought. I would be pissed and looking for blood.


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05.24.2010, 10:11 PM

It was listed on RC Tech.

The only thing that concerns me now is that we know people like this are jerks. So if I leave him a negative he will most likely leave me a negative too in retaliation even though I did nothing wrong. I was in a situation on RCU one time where a guy made an offer on my item, then refused to pay, and when I threatened negative feedback he said, "Go ahead, I'll just leave you a negative too." I don't want a negative on my profile just because some idiot wants to retaliate.


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05.24.2010, 10:17 PM

Do this...go to the trader feedback section and detail the original thread as well as your pics of the body. Then post in his seller thread linking to the bad feedback thread. It's not quite a negative, but it'll get a lot of folks attention.
   
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05.24.2010, 10:17 PM

Ooooh yes.
Good ol' RC Tech.

Leave a thread open in the Trader Feedback, and in the sales thread, put for sale pics, then received pics.

Make note of everything he put in the AD (FIND THE AD AND TAKE A SCREENSHOT).

Make that proof, write everything down, toss it in the Trader Feedback, last comes to last, he doesn't cooperate, send the thread off to good ol' PayPal.
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05.24.2010, 10:33 PM

I sent him a PM not too long ago, I'm kind of hoping he replies with more BS and lies just so I have more ammunition for showing people he is dishonest.


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05.24.2010, 11:06 PM

If the original thread hasn't been tainted yet make some screenshots of it. More or less he will probably change it if you post a link to the original.

I went as far a fighting a guy for almost 9 months on a deal gone bad on Traxxas forum. I had all my ducks in a row, including screen shots. He had a receipt from a UPS store stating that he shipped me a RC Car, paypal sided with him. Paypal likes to side with sellers for some reason. 9 months down the road, I kept tabs, more pictures of his Slash showed up on his Photobucket account, BAM. Got him for everything. I went as far as ensuring Paypal closed his user account. Paypal refunded my money and I had some high up guy from Paypal call me directly to apologize for the error.

Idiots like this can't hide. I would ensure that he gets bad publicity. If you fear the bad feedback get the moderators involved they usually have enough common sense to suffice who is right and who is wrong. Go as far as asking them how to post information regarding the bad deal, mods like it when you include them, because it is usually them who have to clean up most of the crap said in one of those threads.

Try googling his screen name, if he really is retarded he most likely uses the same screen name on more than one Forum, you can get so much info on the web without really trying. Google Suzuki2903 or Christopher Saldusky and see what comes up. That bastard better burn in hell.

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05.24.2010, 11:31 PM

Now that I see pictures from both parties, I have to be honest- If that picture of his was taken from the original ad, then he sent you exactly what he had in posession. I can see the tears in the body post holes in his picture. If he had posted pics of a *new* body, it would be different.

There is still the problem of him stating it was "brand new" in the ad. You should still ask for your money back because he misrepresented the item.

That quote of his I used in my previous post makes even less sense now... He said he bought it new, then listed it for sale, THEN used it, and forgot to change the ad. Does the ad show if it was edited? If so, when? How could there be a picture of a used body in the ad if he didn't have a used body on hand when he created it? Do you follow me?
   
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Good points - 05.25.2010, 12:09 AM

Some very good points have been made. Get one of the forum moderators involved and share the info with them first. Request advice and assistance in getting the issue resolved. That way you have the backing of someone in power. Anyone can see up front that this sale smells to high heaven. Sorry for your hardship and I hope that you can get something right done for this. If he truly is a Deuschebag he will gith you tooth and nail unless you have your ducks in a row with evidence. Good luck.


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05.25.2010, 12:20 AM

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I can see the tears in the body post holes in his picture.
Yeah, but that's looking at the picture after the fact already knowing they are torn. At the time I was viewing the ad it just looked like a mounting hole. And the melted/warped side was not visible at all. The pic is pretty grainy, I suppose my lesson should be always ask for better pics (which I usually insist on, but it was a low dollar item so I took his word that it was new). I am inclined to believe he still used it more after that pic because it seems more beat up now, but that again could be the grainy pic.


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05.25.2010, 12:29 AM

That was my point. It looked OK because there was nothing to compare it to until you got it, then it turned out to be the correct item, however, it was wrongly labeled as a "new" item.

Tell him to get a new phone so he can take better pics next time... Or, wth, go buy a camera!

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