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RC-Monster Aluminum
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10.23.2010, 03:51 PM
My guess is the 1410 on 3s might pull too much current on the sc controller. Just a guess
sounds interesting though as I have not tried 3s on the 4600 yet. I'm sure the mmpro can handle it but I didn't even think about switching speed.
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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10.23.2010, 03:58 PM
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My guess is the 1410 on 3s might pull too much current on the sc controller. Just a guess
sounds interesting though as I have not tried 3s on the 4600 yet. I'm sure the mmpro can handle it but I didn't even think about switching speed.
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I understand the 1410 on 3S might be beyond what the Sidewinder SC can handle - that's why I asked abouit using with MMP or Monster. I didn't think about switching speed until later, by which time Ferret had already posted his reply. The 1410 4 pole on 3S would need a switching speed equivalent to that required by an 11,400KV 2 pole motor on 2S. That's up to 96K RPM on the 2 pole motor with 2S.
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RC-Monster Titanium
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10.23.2010, 08:32 PM
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I understand the 1410 on 3S might be beyond what the Sidewinder SC can handle - that's why I asked abouit using with MMP or Monster. I didn't think about switching speed until later, by which time Ferret had already posted his reply. The 1410 4 pole on 3S would need a switching speed equivalent to that required by an 11,400KV 2 pole motor on 2S. That's up to 96K RPM on the 2 pole motor with 2S.
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We don't recommend 3s because if we did, everyone with a 4wd SC truck would immediately try it... And that motor isn't appropriate for 3s in a 4wd SCT truck.
Both the motor and controller are 3s capable, in the right application... But not in a 4wd SCT truck.
Patrick del Castillo
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Castle Creations
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8th scale Stunt-Driver/Mechanic
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10.28.2010, 06:10 PM
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We don't recommend 3s because if we did, everyone with a 4wd SC truck would immediately try it... And that motor isn't appropriate for 3s in a 4wd SCT truck.
Both the motor and controller are 3s capable, in the right application... But not in a 4wd SCT truck.
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So yes 3s is ok... in something like a rustler... I will.
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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10.28.2010, 08:19 PM
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So yes 3s is ok... in something like a rustler... I will. 
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Yeah, can I put this in a rustler or 2wd slash on 3s?
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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10.23.2010, 11:42 PM
I heard from an inside source the sidewinder sc esc is actually closer in capability to the original mamba max. Is this true? What kind of power handling are we looking at?
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RC-Monster Titanium
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10.25.2010, 08:07 PM
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I heard from an inside source the sidewinder sc esc is actually closer in capability to the original mamba max. Is this true? What kind of power handling are we looking at?
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Yes, the power handling on the Sidewinder SCT is close to the original Mamba Max.
It's quite robust.
Patrick del Castillo
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Castle Creations
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RC-Monster Stock
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10.24.2010, 05:15 PM
What is the BEC output voltage for the sidewinder ESC?
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RC-Monster Titanium
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10.25.2010, 08:07 PM
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What is the BEC output voltage for the sidewinder ESC?
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It's a 5V BEC, just like the original Sidewinder.
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RC-Monster Titanium
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10.27.2010, 03:29 PM
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It's a 5V BEC, just like the original Sidewinder.
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come one patric, you need to start putting a good adjustable bec into all of the new esc's, we would all be more than happy to pay the little bit extra it would cost
5a bec's are great for stock traxxas servos but alot of us run servos that need much more and haveing to ad an external bec to everything we run just makes our wireing look unclean and makes it harder to pass inspections at the track
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I'm telling Patrick you said that!
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10.25.2010, 09:00 PM
Patrick, I have a 3+year old mamba max setup with a 4600kv CM 36 motor, I am planning to get a 4600kv 1406 and a 1410/3800kv for running in a stadium truck (associated T4). If i wanted to save money, I could just get the motors. Is there anything in the design of the sc sidewinder that the mamba max is missing? Would it perform better my mamba max? Just wondering if i really need to replace the esc, to get the most out of the motors. Thanks for any info
Work because i gotta, play because i wanna
People here hate Nitro, I love it. I start it, run it about 50 ft from me and it dies, I go after it. Perfect exercise
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RC-Monster Titanium
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10.26.2010, 07:17 PM
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Patrick, I have a 3+year old mamba max setup with a 4600kv CM 36 motor, I am planning to get a 4600kv 1406 and a 1410/3800kv for running in a stadium truck (associated T4). If i wanted to save money, I could just get the motors. Is there anything in the design of the sc sidewinder that the mamba max is missing? Would it perform better my mamba max? Just wondering if i really need to replace the esc, to get the most out of the motors. Thanks for any info
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The MM is a great controller - - power handling of the SCT is close, but not quite the same as the MM. The MM has higher burst capacity than the SCT, but the SCT has a better thermal design than the MM.
I'd stick with the MM and save the money. Then get an SCT later if you want a less expensive option to the MMP.
Thanx!
Patrick del Castillo
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RC-Monster Stock
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10.26.2010, 12:42 AM
So is the new motor going to be available separately along with the speed controls and combos hitting the shelves, or are they coming later?
Definitely want the motor for the SC10...may as well get the combo though at $110 and put the speedo in the buggy too though. HRMM.
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RC-Monster Mod
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10.26.2010, 08:06 PM
Patrick any ETA on just the motors and a guestimate on street price - Cheers
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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10.27.2010, 04:20 AM
Thanks Patrick, i didn't see anything different, even the BEC is the same type. Glad i don't need the SC to fully use the new motors
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