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I have no idea what's going on
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07.03.2008, 07:35 PM
AFAIK, Patrick did list the downgrades in the Castle Neu compared to a genuine Neu...and I don't think he mentioned anything about the rotor not being segmented. The motors will obviously be machine wound, and he also said that the rotor won't be carbon-wrapped (it was going to be, but apparently carbon fibre right now is expensive), though that won't really affect much. There might have been one or two other changes too, but I can't remember exactly.
The upgrades will be nice though, as F7Rider said. Larger bearings, sealed endbellsand a tougher can with a screw-together design. Should be sweet!
The proof is in the pudding though, so there's no way of knowing how good this lump will be until we test it! I get the feeling that Castle are really going to pull the rabbit out of the hat this time, though.
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07.03.2008, 07:36 PM
I said " I do not think.." so yes, I might be wrong, too. However, the possibility is still big that we wont see a segmented rotor in a CC Neu motor.
The name is Alawi. You can call me Al.
Nice to meet you!
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I have no idea what's going on
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07.03.2008, 07:39 PM
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I said " I do not think.."
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That's cool, sorry if I came over like I was saying you're definitely wrong. I might be wrong!
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Yip Yip Yip...
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07.03.2008, 07:50 PM
The CC ad says it will have a sintered neo magnet. If that doesn't mean it's segmented then I doubt it will be segmented or it would say so on the ad.
Savage: FLM Conversion, 6s, MMM, CC 1520.
Mini-T Pro: Micro Pro 6800kv, Lipo, HS-81mg, Dirt Hawgs
M18MT: Quark 33A, Y22S 6000kv, FP 2s Lipo
LRP S8-BX: RC-M Conversion, Tekin RX8 B1600KV, 6S.
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07.03.2008, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by captain harlock
For your information, everyone, the CC Neu motors are being manufactured in chaina. I do not think they are hand built, and I also do not think they incorporate segmented magnets like the ones available directly from Neu itself. All of these things were done to take down the prices of these motors by leaps and pounds.
The " Real" Neus are way better and more expensive than the CC ones. The CC ones are meant for the general public and those who aren't willing to get the original under license from Neu.
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Wheres Chaina?
The "Castle Neu" motors will be build in Castle's Chinese facility, under license from Steve Neu, and we are currently waiting on magnets to arrive from our magnet supplier in China to build the final prototypes and get the production line started. The "Authentic Neu" motors are built in Steve Neu's facility in San Diego. The differences between the motors were mostly to make the CC motor better suited for RC car use -- the "Authentic" Neu motors were designed for airplane and heli use originally, which calls for lightest possible weight.
#1: Authentic Neu motors have carbon fiber wound rotors, the Castle Neu motors will not have a carbon wound rotor. (We tried, but Carbon Fiber is so rare right now we just couldn't procure enough carbon for production... but we have found in testing that the carbon wound rotors aren't significantly stronger, they just protect the stator better when the rotor fails, so we decided to move forward without a carbon wound rotor.)
#2: Castle Neu motors have a completely different case, which is better suited to RC car use (better seals on front and rear bearings, more heat sink area, heavier and stiffer construction.)
#3: Castle Neu motors have larger front bearings to handle RC car loads better than the Neu motors
#4: Castle Neu motors have high flex 10ga silicone wires exiting the case, instead of winding wires (better suited to very high vibration environments.)
Thanx!
Patrick
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MMM V1 w/1.20
Airtronics MX3 2.4Ghz
TP 5S 5000mah
Neu 2.5D/F
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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07.03.2008, 08:33 PM
I hope CC would lend some of the guys here at RCM some prototype for testing to avoid having to go over the dilemma of MMM. Most of the heavy basher/extreme racers can be found here
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Yip Yip Yip...
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07.03.2008, 09:06 PM
sick of everyone hitting them with $60 vouchers probably.
Savage: FLM Conversion, 6s, MMM, CC 1520.
Mini-T Pro: Micro Pro 6800kv, Lipo, HS-81mg, Dirt Hawgs
M18MT: Quark 33A, Y22S 6000kv, FP 2s Lipo
LRP S8-BX: RC-M Conversion, Tekin RX8 B1600KV, 6S.
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Something, anything, nothing
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07.03.2008, 09:23 PM
That is just another reason to buy from mike instead.
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07.04.2008, 02:00 AM
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Yep, that sounds like Tower. After everything that happened with the MMM, Mike came out with the best deal and left it till last
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Airtronics MX3 2.4Ghz
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07.04.2008, 02:52 AM
Tower also put the price up on the Sidewinder kits. Tower use to only sell them at $132.99 and now have them listed at $144.99
Tower also has the Conversion Kits listed on their site to http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13293
Losi 8ight
MMM V1 w/1.20
Airtronics MX3 2.4Ghz
TP 5S 5000mah
Neu 2.5D/F
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07.04.2008, 01:46 PM
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Wheres Chaina?
The "Castle Neu" motors will be build in Castle's Chinese facility, under license from Steve Neu, and we are currently waiting on magnets to arrive from our magnet supplier in China to build the final prototypes and get the production line started. The "Authentic Neu" motors are built in Steve Neu's facility in San Diego. The differences between the motors were mostly to make the CC motor better suited for RC car use -- the "Authentic" Neu motors were designed for airplane and heli use originally, which calls for lightest possible weight.
#1: Authentic Neu motors have carbon fiber wound rotors, the Castle Neu motors will not have a carbon wound rotor. (We tried, but Carbon Fiber is so rare right now we just couldn't procure enough carbon for production... but we have found in testing that the carbon wound rotors aren't significantly stronger, they just protect the stator better when the rotor fails, so we decided to move forward without a carbon wound rotor.)
#2: Castle Neu motors have a completely different case, which is better suited to RC car use (better seals on front and rear bearings, more heat sink area, heavier and stiffer construction.)
#3: Castle Neu motors have larger front bearings to handle RC car loads better than the Neu motors
#4: Castle Neu motors have high flex 10ga silicone wires exiting the case, instead of winding wires (better suited to very high vibration environments.)
Thanx!
Patrick
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It's the one without the extra "a" I've added. Hehe! ;P
The name is Alawi. You can call me Al.
Nice to meet you!
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07.04.2008, 01:49 PM
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That's cool, sorry if I came over like I was saying you're definitely wrong. I might be wrong! 
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No hard feelings, my friend. Just making myself clear.
The name is Alawi. You can call me Al.
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07.04.2008, 04:36 PM
look at this

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07.04.2008, 04:48 PM
ooo i want one! that motor looks cool in the green color
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