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01.14.2009, 11:49 PM

You'll need to do much more than you have, and doing the whole thing (including over the intake area) will be fine. Look at a few semi's and guys with diesel pickups - they will have the entire front covered. When it warms up over xero, they will unvoer some of it.
Your intake will be able to suck air from behind the grill.

What's Nitro: When you get to temps that are below -20, and with wind, just being enclosed will likely keep the temp up about 10+ degrees than outside. And at those temps, over a certain period, fluids can and will start icing. Oils, espeically in the tranny and diffs, gets extremely stiff. Fuels start to either form frost (gasoline), and the parafin in diesel will start to solidify. The wind chill will accelerate this process. If you cant park inside, at least park with the radiator pointed away from the wind.


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01.14.2009, 11:52 PM

I'll cover more in the morning... I'm tired.

Just remembered after the 10 minute drive home from church the engine temp was bottomed out.. haha
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01.14.2009, 11:58 PM

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When you get to temps that are below -20, and with wind, just being enclosed will likely keep the temp up about 10+ degrees than outside. And at those temps, over a certain period, fluids can and will start icing. Oils, espeically in the tranny and diffs, gets extremely stiff. Fuels start to either form frost (gasoline), and the parafin in diesel will start to solidify. The wind chill will accelerate this process. If you cant park inside, at least park with the radiator pointed away from the wind.
Like I said, there must be some part of the equation that I'm missing. It's been a long time since I took any classes on the subject. I've been outgunned 3:1 on this one, so I will take what was said as fact. The details really are irrelevant.

Thank you for the advice. My car is parked about 3' in front of a solid picket fence. I'm not sure where the wind comes from relative to my car's orientation, so I'll just hope it starts when I need it too. I have two batteries in it and that has seemed to help in the past.
   
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01.15.2009, 12:07 AM

maybe think of it this way-

when you are outside on a cold windy day your balls are much colder than if you were standing in a shelter, even though your balls aren't actually touching the wind. As things around you get colder you get colder. Basic thermal dynamics.


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maybe think of it this way-

when you are outside on a cold windy day your balls are much colder than if you were standing in a shelter, even though your balls aren't actually touching the wind. As things around you get colder you get colder. Basic thermal dynamics.
To back this up I must add your balls get.... well they shrivel up. Not the actual balls, but... you get what I mean. They are just trying to get out of the wind more because the wind makes everything cooler.
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01.15.2009, 12:40 AM

Am I late again? Did you guy already discuss the rectum as a hole or is that next weeks meeting? I don't have my curriculum here and I can't remember if that was before or after the discussion of the testicles natural defense of shrinking to avoid the cold or being inadvertently struck.
   
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Am I late again? Did you guy already discuss the rectum as a hole or is that next weeks meeting? I don't have my curriculum here and I can't remember if that was before or after the discussion of the testicles natural defense of shrinking to avoid the cold or being inadvertently struck.
way late man. we've been over (and through) all human cylyndrical orifices, and a few man made


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01.15.2009, 02:22 AM

Reading it the way you put it, I’m kind of glad I missed out on that discussion Harold.


Just a note on wind chill and the wind chill factor. It is only used for animals and yes us humans also to factor in what the temperature feels like to our skin. It is some magical formula that takes into consideration what the wind is taking away from our skin in the terms of heat. I don't know the big terms. But one day while drive 65mph down the road I asked why the digital thermometer that the car had didn't display the wind chill factor. Just something to drum up conversation to keep my coworker awake behind the wheel. Well it worked 140 miles later the answer was explained to me. Exaggeration but he enjoyed telling me why and I wasn't going to get any sleep with him driving. Wind chill will have a factor on object like metal or water but it will only effect how fast that object reaches the temp of the air. Driving down the road at 60mph in 10 degree weather should have one hell of a wind chill. If it effect object you might burn you hand on your car not from it being so hot but the wind chill made it -100 f. Water will not freeze if the air temp is above freezing no matter what temp the wind chill is factored at. I did check to make sure he wasn't just BS me the whole time.


Two factors to consider why a vehicle may start easier if it is inside. One it is in a controlled environment. Two is the amount of moisture that may be inside that garage vs. outside the garage. Both have some kind of effect on the overall temperature including the cooling of the earths crust blah ,blah. It may be the garage has a nice concrete floor which helps in insulating it from the soil which could very well be 20 degree outside but inside the concrete in not. It has been ages since I was an inspector and knew all the r-values that a slab of concrete has. Point is controlled vs. not controlled area. Most attached garages weather officially heated or not. Get heat from the house via attic space, crawlspace, under/around/through doors, and/or the freezer that is always on, the vehicles engine that was just parked, being in a controlled area it will retain that heat for quite a long time. So being parked in an area that can keep moisture (frost) out will help you vehicle start. Believe it or not just a carport that keeps the frost off you vehicle will help. Not in the cold ass unbearable weather you guys are having though.
   
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01.15.2009, 02:34 AM

Its -2, windchill -19 here in NW burbs of Chicago. Anyone living in Arizona or So Cali will ge their payback with heat in a few months, but I envy you all now. My car is frozen, I literally cant start it. I think the battery is frozen. I would have it inside the garage hooked up to a slow charger with a heater on like last year but my wife took it upon herself to fill our garage up with excess supplies for her photo labs. She can taxi me around till spring then LOL
   
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01.15.2009, 03:16 AM

I had to turn on the AC today, and usually rolling down the windows alone suffices...


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I had to turn on the AC today, and usually rolling down the windows alone suffices...
you turned on th AC and it was only in the 80s....I usually dont turn on the AC untill its past 100...I am looking into an evaporative cooler for this summer, a friend has one and he says its alot cheaper to run
   
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01.15.2009, 11:07 AM

Haha, I don't run AC until around 100s either.

When it's hot in SoCal, it's fricken HOT.
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Metallover: Does it just put a ".7" after everything? That's fraking cold, man...
   
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01.15.2009, 12:46 PM

Well the news says that its suppose to get up to a high of -10 today and a low of -30 with windchills around -45. Did I ever tell you guys I love wisconsin weather.


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