Motor / Esc for RC8T-e

[Riko]

so when buying the LE + the RCM kit, you have all the parts you need

[Nard Cox]

A motor, Esc, servo and some LiPo's would come in handy also ;)

[Riko]

I meant besides those parts ;)

And did you already made a decision as to what Motor + ESC you are going to get for your RC8Te?

And what kits are you going to buy, the RC8te kit or a nitro kit + electro conversion?

Keep us informed about your progress ;)

[NIX]

Originally Posted by Riko

so when buying the LE + the RCM kit, you have all the parts you need

Yes, I would go for that.
6s setup with a 1300 - 1700 kv Neu 1515 & MMM V3 for when you are living in the US. Medusa 36-70-1600 kv would also be a good motor to start with although medusa has passed away....
For europe I would suggest to buy a MGM compro 8s 140 A controller directly at MGM compro. http://mgm-compro.com/index.php?cat=...for-cars-boats. They have a quick service and 2 year 'idiot proof' warranty. Price difference is just a few euro with a MMM V3 over an official agent. A very nice option they have now is a complete waterproof ESC!!!!! No fans needed on these 'though' boys. I am very pleased with the service and feedback on questions etc of MGM compro. I myself use both 2 160A 6s and 1 140A 8s MGM compro controller.
Lehner 1950 or 2240 series would also give terrific motor and can be ordered directly at Lehner.. http://www.lehner-motoren.de/ms22.php.

I would advice to use a UBEC (castle creations) as a bec is like a little heat source in every controller. A good setup with a decent esc doesn't need a fan.... For that a 6s for a truggy gives a much more reliable, efficient and cooler setup than one on 4s. 4 s for a buggy I see as a minimum and for the fact that a truggy is heavier 5 s seems to be the minimum to choose for, so go for 6s.

I see no need for using a sensored system.. Buggies & Truggies are to be driven.. not to use as crawler... I've no 'cogging' issues with the lower kv / higher voltage setups.
Althoug big I noticed that the hobbywing 150 A controller (also at RC-monster available) does a very good job. A friend of me has 'fried' ad MMM v3 is waiting already more than 3 months (yes 3 months!!!!! wat about customer service of ?Castle Creations for european customers... because of that MGM compro is the controller manufacturer to buy in europe, service = 10 days max!!!) for the replacement and is meanwhile running a hobbywing EZrun 150A. It runs without any problem and seems even to run more smooth than the MMM he has (but is waiting for to return...).

[Riko]

this is not a direct buy, but I already want to do my research and my questioning long before :)

But I was thinking about a MMM combo (esc + motor) this combo is one of the best combo's on the market together with the Teking combo (so some say to me).
Many forums + youtube comments seem to confirm this...So I think I will go for that combo.
And the MGM instruction are a bit to crazy for me to figure out, so I'll take my chances with the MMM combo :)

Originally Posted by NIX

Yes, I would go for that.
6s setup with a 1300 - 1700 kv Neu 1515 & MMM V3 for when you are living in the US. Medusa 36-70-1600 kv would also be a good motor to start with although medusa has passed away....
For europe I would suggest to buy a MGM compro 8s 140 A controller directly at MGM compro. http://mgm-compro.com/index.php?cat=...for-cars-boats. They have a quick service and 2 year 'idiot proof' warranty. Price difference is just a few euro with a MMM V3 over an official agent. A very nice option they have now is a complete waterproof ESC!!!!! No fans needed on these 'though' boys. I am very pleased with the service and feedback on questions etc of MGM compro. I myself use both 2 160A 6s and 1 140A 8s MGM compro controller.
Lehner 1950 or 2240 series would also give terrific motor and can be ordered directly at Lehner.. http://www.lehner-motoren.de/ms22.php.

I would advice to use a UBEC (castle creations) as a bec is like a little heat source in every controller. A good setup with a decent esc doesn't need a fan.... For that a 6s for a truggy gives a much more reliable, efficient and cooler setup than one on 4s. 4 s for a buggy I see as a minimum and for the fact that a truggy is heavier 5 s seems to be the minimum to choose for, so go for 6s.

I see no need for using a sensored system.. Buggies & Truggies are to be driven.. not to use as crawler... I've no 'cogging' issues with the lower kv / higher voltage setups.
Althoug big I noticed that the hobbywing 150 A controller (also at RC-monster available) does a very good job. A friend of me has 'fried' ad MMM v3 is waiting already more than 3 months (yes 3 months!!!!! wat about customer service of ?Castle Creations for european customers... because of that MGM compro is the controller manufacturer to buy in europe, service = 10 days max!!!) for the replacement and is meanwhile running a hobbywing EZrun 150A. It runs without any problem and seems even to run more smooth than the MMM he has (but is waiting for to return...).

Where do you find those Waterproof versions?

I always asked myself what the difference is between the E-Series and Z-Series. The only thing I know is that the Z-Series are newer than the E-Series, right?

[NIX]

Originally Posted by Riko

this is not a direct buy, but I already want to do my research and my questioning long before :)

But I was thinking about a MMM combo (esc + motor) this combo is one of the best combo's on the market together with the Teking combo (so some say to me).
Many forums + youtube comments seem to confirm this...So I think I will go for that combo.
And the MGM instruction are a bit to crazy for me to figure out, so I'll take my chances with the MMM combo :)

It's always best to figure things out good before you'll buy. before buying read all you can and deside wise. First you need to learn to crawl, than learn walking before you start running.

I would pick the MMMv3 combo. Will do good, but a lower kv motor with higher voltage will give a colder setup... Will also draw less max amps so lower c rating lipo's and by that cheaper can be used...
The tekin motor's.. rotors... dramatic so far what I see. When they work they do a great job.. but high faillure risk and 3 months warranty. Also quite a lot more faillures on the ESC's than with the MMM v2. Productidea is good, testing cyclus was loooooooong and promosing but as often minor changes once put into production can cause big problems... As I setup productions in China for EU & US based companies I know that that fase is very critical. And almost all the RC manufacturors outsource quite a lot overthere and in Taiwan. Read the boxes.. designed in the USA... = not equal to produced in the USA.. Same with 'designed by Neu' = not equal to 'produced by hand by Neu'... All has its price and often you get what you pay for. Although good = good and highend is for most of us a 'waste of money'.. better use that money for other fun things in life.
Castle Creations had their problems to with the v1 and v2 version but the v3 is now a good product, they work and 1 year warranty.. Customer service is good in the US, for europe it all depends on the agent that is selling and for that they have picked at least one who doesn't meet the requirements a company like Castle stands for... they should check good the job their resellers do & if necessary

The MGM is less complicated than one could conclude reading all instructions the MGM compro engineers hand out and by their 'technical type of writing'. They should write their instructions with the practical user in mind and not as engineer who explains something to another engineer...

Most important have fun with your RC8T!!!

[Nard Cox]

The Tekin rotors seem to be fixed with the v2 version (atleast so I've read here @ RCM).

[NIX]

Originally Posted by Byte

Where do you find those Waterproof versions?

I always asked myself what the difference is between the E-Series and Z-Series. The only thing I know is that the Z-Series are newer than the E-Series, right?

The waterproof version is an option you need to ad to the ESC once you picked out the rigth one. http://mgm-compro.com/prod_opts.php?...&prod_type=reg WR, water resistant version. A picture of this version is at the home/introductionpage of MGM compro. And yes, it also works under water... but other systems of your RC8T might fail to do.

The Z series has an extra port for adding a black box to log all data, for that somewhat more $$$. Otherwise equal so if you are not a 'tech freak' it is a waste of money.

[NIX]

Originally Posted by Nard Cox

The Tekin rotors seem to be fixed with the v2 version (atleast so I've read here @ RCM).

Seems yes.. design has been improved a lot. But as experienced still gives problems, althoug a lot less than with the 1st version.
And also for this it is very frustrating when you run a combo in Europe and the warranty takes a loooooooooong time (and shipping costs..).

[Riko]

I did find this however, no coincidence the same motor + esc NIX adviced ;)
http://www.rc-raceworld.de/RC-Cars/m...-Set--941.html

motor:
Lehner 1940LK7
2290 Kv


ESC:
MGM Z - Series 160
Continuous Current: 160 Amps
Peakstrom 5sec: 200 Amp
PWM Frequency: 6 / 16 / 32 KHz
Input Current: 7.4 volts - 22.2 volts = 2S - 6S LiPo battery
BEC: 5-6 Volts
Weight. 113 gr



already installed in the car itself!
These are good manufactures and this is a good combo?

[Nard Cox]

Yes it's a good combo, but take what NiX said into consideration .. then what you do think about the value / 'performance' of this product?

[NIX]

True, good combo and for europe a good price. But the roller is the E version, not the Factory team edition...

I see that you live in Belgium... You can PM me if you are interested in both a RC8T, mgm compro and medusa 36-70-1600. It's an almost new RC8T with steering mod. Motor & controller are new. I decided to concentrate on buggies (RC8) & a special high speed project so I am selling out quite some stuff as I can't drive all.
We've a small group with RC8/T (bash type) drivers what makes it easy to exchange and help out on spare parts. A lot of RC8 stuff is also direct fit for the T version and other way around.
So if you want to safe yourself (a lot of) money... PM

[Riko]

Originally Posted by NIX

True, good combo and for europe a good price. But the roller is the E version, not the Factory team edition...

ja inderdaad.

Maar zoals u zegt, het is de electro versie (met plastic onderdelen en niet de LE editie met de sterke hop up onderdelen )

Alles bij elkaar geteld is het zelfs goedkoper om een LE versie te kopen en om zelf te converteren naar brushless met bijvoorbeeld een MMM combo
Het scheelt zelfs 130 euro.

Maar dat verschil kan wel weer tenietgedaan worden door eventuele importkosten (combo + auto zelf, want in Europa zijn deze niet te vinden)
De combo wel, maar deze kost in europa 300 euro.

Ik denk dat ik wss toch ga kiezen voor alles zelf te bouwen startend met de LE kit.

[Nard Cox]

This is an English forum, please speak / write it so others can also follow ;)

My advise : put this on hold and get some experience first.