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All I can say is every time I look at the pictures of the RC4WD alum gear set all I see are flaws and a lack of engineering and just a few pieces of aluminum worth much less than the price they want. I am not jealous but again don't they care about what they are selling? Is their reputation not worth a few extra bucks. Now I know my gear sets will just increase in value as junk like this is made to be a substitute.
You are supposed to be sucked into the magic of aluminum gears for the Emaxx. Are you under their spell yet? I no longer have a gear set to offer and neither does RC4WD..........
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the Ultramaxx gears will go up in value....OUCH....but well said
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04.16.2006, 10:03 PM

the OUCh was intended toward RC4WD product
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04.16.2006, 10:13 PM

Yeah i have a set of GenIII,very fine they are too,thankyou.
   
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I almost wish I had the money to start off with a new machine shop to get this off the ground again to produce the original and best gear sets ever made and stop the "counterfeiting". I hope someone keeps an eye open and lets me know when RC4WD produces "Note: We are still working on the rest of 2 little gears, it should be available in May"
Oh they just think of them as the 2 little gears!!!.
Boy aren't you lucky to get 2 little gears to go with the other parts in this set.
That's the thought process behind this gear set, lets make everyone think they are getting "UltraMaxxed" NOT!!!!!!!!
   
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I couldn't resist this......"All I want for X-mas is the "2 little gears""...sorry that wasn't nice.....But on a more seriuos note...how can A company produce a copied item and not even know the correct name of the product...IE....1st gear/Shift Dog/2nd gear, and idlers....
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I couldn't resist this......"All I want for X-mas is the "2 little gears""...sorry that wasn't nice.....But on a more seriuos note...how can A company produce a copied item and not even know the correct name of the product...IE....1st gear/Shift Dog/2nd gear, and idlers....
Exactly, I just hope they sell well and they get the bad publicity they deserve as they fail in minutes or less than an hour of bashing.
Poor planning and design is met with doom. I guess that is why the RC4WD Aluminum Emaxx tranny case is no longer made. It appeared to be a good design but had many flaws to fix in order to make it work if you knew how to fix them. Yes I did actually have one of them and installed my gears in it and sold it as soon as I could. I did get it to work but I was not very happy as were previous owners of the cases only had complaints. I see the gear sets to be short lived also.
   
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04.16.2006, 10:41 PM

Up late tonight eh...dan....It's nice to see you still around.....I remember the aluminum case they made...it was pretty expensive, but had alot of complaints.....you're right about their gear sets.....if they produced tranny cases with that many probs...by the appearance of the gears..they seem to be following in the same footsteps....catch everyone tomorrow....
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Up late tonight eh...dan....It's nice to see you still around.....I remember the aluminum case they made...it was pretty expensive, but had alot of complaints.....you're right about their gear sets.....if they produced tranny cases with that many probs...by the appearance of the gears..they seem to be following in the same footsteps....catch everyone tomorrow....
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Yes that is exactly what I'm taking about. It's like any China clone, there are going to be cost cut backs and quality issues. Some great things come from China and I own allot of bargains that work well, BUT there are always things you cannot compromise on and expect it to work or last. And a gear set like this is one of them. So BUYER BEWARE!!!.
   
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04.16.2006, 11:52 PM

i dont think those gears are ment for high power brushless i think there ment more for crawling sense rc4wd sells stuff mostly for crawlers. and i think its also for the "bling" factor more that strength imo
   
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04.17.2006, 06:46 AM

I know of alot better places and things to spend $100.00 on...expecially on my BL emaxx....and as for this comment
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i dont think those gears are ment for high power brushless i think there ment more for crawling sense rc4wd sells stuff mostly for crawlers. and i think its also for the "bling" factor more that strength imo
why waste the time and money to even put these gears into the tranny....when they are more than likely to fail.....as for me....I'll allways keep and run my Ultramaxxed gears.....this was taken directly from the ultramaxxed gears website...under testimonies....and I think this pretty much speaks for itself...about the quality/craftmanship and the testing that Dans gears had gone thru...

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I cant say enough about these gears. I have put more power to these things than most people will ever see, and no failures. They are stronger than the rest of the drive train, so the transmission is no longer a concern. I have broke 2 SM CVDs and bent one, and broke the 6mm output shaft as well. I have put around 10 races on the truck at this time, before I wouldn't get through a single race. The quality is 2nd to none on them as well.
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I have broken my personal top-speeds 3 times because of these gears.
My experiences with the gears come from comparison to both plastic and aluminum tranny cases with SM idler gears and high-end bearings. With those original gears, even with the SM idlers, I was not able to hit 51 MPH without the main gears grinding. After several times of this, I gave up trying until it was time to prototype test these things. Immediately, I was able to take my twin brushless truck up to top-speed without grinding, which just encouraged me to seek more. I slapped in a single, very powerful motor and ran it on a lot of cells to 5MPH faster than I had gone with even the twin setup. So, of course, I wanted more, and threw in an even more powerful motor, once again, passing that top-speed. So, of course, I wanted more, and threw in a motor that's even more powerful than that one, and blew into the 60MPH+ range, with a heavy extended aluminum truck.
The kind in extreme output it takes to move the big ol' heavy truck this fast through the wind and across the asphalt, with 4WD and full-size monster truck tires, is almost beyond comprehension... And, to do that in a truck that is also tuned to have the torque to yank the front end of this heavy/dropped truck into the air already accelerating into speeds exceeding 45 MPH.

None of this would even be remotely possible without the UltraMaxxed gears.
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Dan has a great product here!!! The gears are well made and SUPER strong!!!
My dual BL motor set-ups were destroying stock gears very easily now all my problems are gone.
I have used some very powerful single and dual BL systems with no trans problems thanks to these wonderful gears.
The following BL systems were used when I tested the gears.
Dual C50's with 28 and 32 cells.
Dual Hacker L's with 28 and 32 cells.
Dual Lehner 1940's with 28 and 32 cells.
Single Hacker XL with 28 and 32 cells.
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More to come, but I think Outkast, HiAmp and Promod have said it all...
Here is a testimonial from one of the 3 unknown E-Maxxers that were able to obtain a pre-production final gear set, they were chosen to provide a well rounded group of end users based on power plants, cell counts, driving style and just overall differences to represent the E-Maxx transmission durability.
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Dan, has really made a extremely durable product, that has been able to with stand the punishment of pulling massive amounts of weight around. Here are the results before UltraMaxxed gears and after. All weight was from a dead stop, with the tranny locked in first gear....no pushing was done to help get it rolling...
Item being pulled : 400 Lbs (my old record)
100 Lbs cart
300 Lbs of sand
Stock tranny gears...Broke stock idlers after 10 ft of pulling
UltraMaxxed Gears.... 700 lbs (my new record)
100 lbs cart
600 lbs of sand
The UltraMaxxed gears not only took the abuse but kept on ticking.....I was able to pull this much weight running the following system...
Single 1920/8 Lehner BL motor
1895 micro BEC
12- 2400mah Ni-Cd matched cells in series
Gearing was 11t pinion /66t spur

If this gear set is able to withstand HiAmp's speed runs, Outkast insane driving habits, and Promod's multiple motor setups , and my weight pulling, then I think the gears have pretty much proven themselves. Great work Dan for seeing it thru till the end and Ben for your knowledge and years of work...going into the "mystery metal" which made these sets possible.
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04.17.2006, 07:19 AM

the only differance from the setup I was running when I tested the gears for Dan....is the following.....

1895 Micro Bec (Blown now)..replaced with a 2095 Micro Bec
12 cells of 3300 Nimh matched in series
Gearing is 13t pinion to 66t spur
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having said this...Dans gears are well worth every penny.......IMHO


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04.17.2006, 04:53 PM

Stampy. For crawling you wouldnt need metal gears and you'd only use 1st gear for most of the time! To Be honest, we all know they were made to be used with big brushless power, and as said above there gonna fail on!

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04.17.2006, 11:15 PM

I dont see the complaints here legit we havent even tried the gears yet? why complain about them? Granted yes dan you do make the best gears to date I bought like freakin 4 of them man used 2 of them heck my used 2 sold, sold for the same price as new man it was freakin awesom deal I sold them and make some money, but nuff said though you dont make them anymore and your critique RC4wd already and havent tried them? lets see see what happens then we can, "oh how crappy they are" I remember when the first emaxx came out you know what they said about the emaxx back in the day, "another stupid electric truck" yet it dominates the electric truck category when so many folks critiqued it badly before it hit the shelfs.
   
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04.18.2006, 09:15 AM

jocktheglide,
I guess you are right, only time will tell.
   
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