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05.29.2007, 12:19 PM

Just be glad that english is option 1. Before long, it will be at the end of the list...

A lot of fast food places now have people that only understand "number 1", "number 2", etc for the various value meals. Which is good until you want something specific. Now, I make it a point to order something different and have to speak to a manager. And I make sure to loudly vocalize my grievence so everyone can hear. :)

Are there any countries that don't suffer from all these types of problems? Because I want to move there.
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05.29.2007, 12:23 PM

Come! Come up here, where the polar bears roam, and ice igloo parliament building is melting! Come to Canada, Eh!

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U hoser! LOL!


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I really do have mixed feelings about some of this. I am first generation American on my mother's side and fourth generation American on my father's side. English is not the first language of either of my parents. My father, having been raised a coon ass, spoke French and my mother spoke Korean.

The Amerian way of life is probably one of the most sought after things in the world. I know that if I lived in a country where doing well was not a function of how hard you broke your back, I would have to look to the future for my kids, and I'd have to do everything that I could to take them where there is more opportunity for them to enjoy life.

On the other hand, I, as an American, want to protect and preserve our way of life, this nation which has given us so much, and the sacrifices that many have made so that we can live the life that we do. To that end, we really need to start enforcing immigration laws. Having them doesn't mean anything if there is no enforcement. I don't understand why the politicians can't stand up for their country. What's with all of the tolerance?

Unfortunately, big business is playing a rather large hand in perpetuating what is going on. I was on my way to work today and realized that a bill board, that has been there, adverstising the Toyota Tundra truck was now written in spanish. What's up with that?

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> >
> > From the L.A. Times
> > 1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million
> > people)
> > are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are
> > predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
> > 2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
> > 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal
> > aliens.
> > 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal aliens
> > Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
> > 5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers
> > are Mexican nationals here illegally.
> > 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in
> > garages.
> > 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles
> > are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
> > 8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
> > 9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
> > 10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English.
> > 3.9 million speak Spanish.
> > (There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County).
> > (All the above from the Los Angeles Times)
> > Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops,
> > but 29% are on welfare.
> > Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth
> > (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York )
> > results from immigration.
> > The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was,
> > (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), a NET $70 BILLION/
> > year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University ]. The lifetime
> > fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average
> > adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE number.
> > 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
> > If they can come to this country to raise Hell and demonstrate by
> > the thousands, WHY can't they take charge over the corruption
> > in their own country?
> > We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.
> > THE U.S. VS MEXICO
> >
> > On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the
Los
> > Angeles
> > Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most
lived
> > in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags
> >were
> > held
> > upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team
were
> > insulted,
> > pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were
> >thrown
> > at
> > the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S.
team,
> > Steve
> > Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I have ever had
in
> > this
> > profession."
> > Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European
countries
> > can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and
> > government
> > contracts. It's called affirmative action or racial privilege. The
> >Emperor
> > of Japan
> > or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be
eligible
> > for
> > special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent.
> > Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third
> > world
> > immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are
> >Exxon,
> > Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.
> > DID YOU KNOW?
> > Did you know .. that Mexico
> > regularly intercedes on the side
> > of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals?
> > Did you know .. that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican
> > national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do
so?
> > According to the L.A. Times, Orange County , California is home to
275
> > gangs with 17,000 members, 98% of which are Mexican and Asian.
> > How's your county doing?
> > According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years
after
> > the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still
> >on
> > welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street
Journal
> > editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as
> >stat-
> > ing that Asian mobsters are the "greatest criminal challenge the
country
> > faces." Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.
> > Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who
spent
> > over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. "Imagine teachers in
> > classes
> > containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and
> > motivation,
> > many of whom aren't fluent in English. Educators seek learning
materials
> > likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words
and
> > math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."
> > WHEN I WAS YOUNG
> > I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island
.
> > They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breathe free. They
wanted
> > to become Americans. Now, far too many immigrants come here with de-
> > mands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand
spe-
> > cial privileges ... affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies
that
> > glorify
> > their culture.
> > NOW ..
> > WHY CAN'T WE SEND THEM HOME???


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05.29.2007, 02:46 PM

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Come! Come up here, where the polar bears roam, and ice igloo parliament building is melting! Come to Canada, Eh!

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Um, I like the cold, but not that much! I was thinking of someplace where there are sunny skies for 90% of the time, and 70*F is the norm. But not Cali - don't wanna fall in the ocean someday. :)
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05.29.2007, 03:07 PM

Pro: Arrg! That just makes my blood pressure rise. To see my tax money going to freeloaders just angers me to the point of incoherent speech!
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Wow Pro, I thought the UK sucked but now I think the whole world sucks, like a giant vacuum cleaner. Its true of many, if not most countries these days though- in the olden days when immigration was a non-issue really, people came to the UK invited (after WW2 I believe to fill the space left by dead soldiers or something?), and they brought their own skills and money to set up businesses and carve a place for themselves. Nower days people come to this country illegally via people traffickers (sp), and they just disappear into the hands of gang masters who get them jobs picking fruit&veg, or cockle picking (see: morcombe bay tragedy). The government makes it far too easy for people to claim benefits without having to really prove they deserve them, and are too affraid to crack down incase they are seen as racist, instead we have to put up with it and are them ones who are cracked down on in terms of rights/freedom to celebrate our britsih way of life. Im not Hitler or anything, none of us are, and some immigrants work damn hard, and had a genuine reason to leave their home country- fleeing conflict/percecution/barbaric governments, and I welcome those people; its the freeloaders who need to be sent packing. Sucks like I giant hoover indeed....
   
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OK, let's all chip in to buy an island! A utopia where everyone does their fair share and where there are R/C tracks within a 10 minute drive or less. :)
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05.29.2007, 06:00 PM

Sorry Neil! Didn't mean to push you over the edge buddy!


I do think the respective governments of our countries need to get their act together before it's too late.

We have over 100million in our country currently and more than 50% of California's population is of 1st generation immigrants or illegal aliens.


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OK, let's all chip in to buy an island! A utopia where everyone does their fair share and where there are R/C tracks within a 10 minute drive or less. :)
Sign me up!!!!!!! :027:


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When I win the lottery I'll buy Luxemburg!
   
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We'll have a RC-Monster get together there!


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OK, after looking at this site, the only island I can find large enough is one for 75,000 acres (117 square miles), but costs $7M. Assuming we split that two ways (since you are the only one to respond so far), that's a bit too rich for my blood. I figure if we get about 100 people or more, it would be more affordable.
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Hey, $7M isn't a whole lot. That would only buy a couple/few nice houses in Beverly Hills. All we need is some creative financing.
   
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