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06.30.2006, 08:13 PM

16 cells is for the Mamba MONSTER Maxx. As is what he was talking about.
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06.30.2006, 09:05 PM

Yeah, there's no real reason for a super high cell count for 1/10 vehicles. 4s Lipo is already too much (trust me). Most 1/10-specific controllers (U-Force, Mtroniks Pro, Graupner Genius, Hacker Master Car) are only rated up to 12 cells. It's not a bad thing that the Mamba Max is rated for the same. However, there is a big difference - the Mamba Max is rated at 100amps (more than all 1/10-specific controllers).


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06.30.2006, 09:21 PM

I'm really excited about the Mamba Max system. I was worried about not having enough money for the Quark and then a Motor, now I can get all of that for almost the price of the Quark speedcontrol and its a lot better and faster.
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Not sure about faster or better for that matter. There both excellect stuff!
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These motors have a 1/8 shaft? I was thinking of trying one out for a pede or brushless jato.


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07.01.2006, 10:36 AM

I'll be picking this up for the Dark Impact hopefully.

Has anyone noticed how high they seem to rate these motors?

The 5700 version is designed for 3S lipo - thats pushing 60K rpm with a fully charged pack!

Novak, LRP, Hacker, Lehner, everybody is going to have to work very hard to sell anything at all if this system is as good is it sounds like it will be.

Castle have acquired total domination inthe 18th scale market, looks like they're going for the 10th and eventually 8th scale markets too!

Hopefully it will bring in some more competition with a price drop from Lehner to make the Basic series compete with the Feigao and now Castle motors a bit better


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07.01.2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:
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These motors have a 1/8 shaft? I was thinking of trying one out for a pede or brushless jato.
Yep, all 1/10 motors have a 1/8" shaft.

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I'll be picking this up for the Dark Impact hopefully.

Has anyone noticed how high they seem to rate these motors?

The 5700 version is designed for 3S lipo - thats pushing 60K rpm with a fully charged pack!

Novak, LRP, Hacker, Lehner, everybody is going to have to work very hard to sell anything at all if this system is as good is it sounds like it will be.

Castle have acquired total domination inthe 18th scale market, looks like they're going for the 10th and eventually 8th scale markets too!

Hopefully it will bring in some more competition with a price drop from Lehner to make the Basic series compete with the Feigao and now Castle motors a bit better
These motors are rated to 65,000 RPM, so 3s isn't a problem for the 5700 (except for the extra heat of inefficiency).

The only reason why these systems won't sell to some is because they aren't (yet) ROAR legal. If a track allows them to be run, then that's good! I don't see a reason why a track should allow these to be run, especially since they're cheaper than the Novak/LRP systems (new).

I doubt that the prices on the Lehners will be lowered, except maybe by retailers so that they can get rid of them and make more room for the Mamba Max!

As for the Dark Impact, if you want a link to a place that sells front universals, aluminum (adjustable) turnbuckles, and some other parts let me know. I just got the universals for the front and the turnbuckle set. Also, there's a guy in England who is making a slipper clutch shaft for the Dark Impact that allows you to use B4 slipper clutch parts and B4 spur gears. It's nice because these gears are standard 48p, unlike the stock Dark Impact gears.


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07.01.2006, 12:58 PM

You can still use the controller. There's no rule about what esc to use.


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07.01.2006, 08:35 PM

Tamiya will be releasing their own slipper system for the DI and I believe that it will end up like the TA04 into a variety of versions like a TRF DI for example. We have to wait for the worlds so we can see what tamiya has prepared the DI with.

About the MMM( Mamba Max Monster), I think I cant get it, because of the low cell counts. The people of CCs told me that some people have used the Phoenix 110HV controller in their trucks, but they did not tell me how did they perform in the MTs. It has no proportional break as well. It would be awsome if this thing can get along with a SuperMaxx. It can handle over 10s lipos easily.


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Tamiya will be releasing their own slipper system for the DI and I believe that it will end up like the TA04 into a variety of versions like a TRF DI for example. We have to wait for the worlds so we can see what tamiya has prepared the DI with.

About the MMM( Mamba Max Monster), I think I cant get it, because of the low cell counts. The people of CCs told me that some people have used the Phoenix 110HV controller in their trucks, but they did not tell me how did they perform in the MTs. It has no proportional break as well. It would be awsome if this thing can get along with a SuperMaxx. It can handle over 10s lipos easily.
The problem with Tamiya's slipper clutch is that you have to use their specific pinion gears, which right now only come in odd numbers of teeth (23, 25, 27, and either 21 or 29). These gears are a metric pitch, like mod 0.4 or mod 0.5, so you can't just use standard 48p pinions with it. Then, if you strip a stock spur gear or the gear on the slipper clutch, good luck finding a replacement besides online. These reasons are why I chose to spend the $37 on a slipper shaft for B4 parts.

If the Phoenix 110HV were to be used in a truck, it would most likely be used with mechanical brakes. Someone here should try it!


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07.01.2006, 10:14 PM

Hey Metalman, I heard the mamba max and the monster max are the same controlers (esc), just with different heatsinks, Is this true? If so, could i use a Mamba Max on a Fegaio 7XL and 12 cells?


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07.01.2006, 10:27 PM

If they were the same with different heatsinks, then the Monster version would most likely also be making its debut. I'm about 95% sure they're different. Recently I was given the information that the Monster version will also be advertised toward the 1/8 buggy market.
You could try the Mamba Max on 12 cells with a 7XL and report how well it does, if you plan on buying it anyways for a 1/10 car.


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07.01.2006, 10:37 PM

I got one ordered with a 5700 motor combo, but if it works as good as you say i'll be looking at getting a esc just for the 7XL. With 100 amps continious and 12 cell capability it should run it great, If i do this i will report on it, yea or nay. BTW, did they give you a surge amp capacity? I can't find one in their specs.


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07.01.2006, 11:11 PM

I don't know what it is, but I'd bet it's a lot. For a certain brushed motor setup (for high power) the system can deliver a peak (pulse) of 900amps!


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07.01.2006, 11:33 PM

Sounds good to me. Looks like i'll have to try it on the 7XL and 12 cells. Looks like i might be the first to try this


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