MaxAmps Race Edition Lipos

[pinkpanda3310]

I think it's funny there are maxamp bashing threads all over the net and they are laying low.

you heard the man...

SPAM THEIR INBOX!!!!

So Brandon, How about some facts. Easy yes or no questions.

Have you ever seen any of Max Amps cells handle a 150c load?

Have you ever seen any of the 6500mah packs, used at a reasonable discharge rate, use 6500mah?

Have you ever tested any Max Amps packs against other brands packs?

Did you see how many bad experiences had been listed, in the forum on RCtech?

[gixxer]

Good to see a rep from Maxamps finally post. Sad to see they still have nothing to backup there claims.

I love how Brandon comes back to this thread to deny the claims that they had the threads on RCTech deleted, but he has yet to deny any of the claims that their battery cannot physically supply that many amps due to the choice in plugs and wires alone.

I guess he can't deny that the batteries suck because it's true. If it wasn't true, he'd deny it/prove otherwise.

[slimthelineman]

Ok I've had enough. The rctech thread being removed was bs. Ma is a sponser for them put those two together. After speaking with Brandon at rcx and with the recent true 150c claims I know for sure they are full of..... Well we all know and have for a long time.

So here it is Brandon, i'm gonna do you a solid. If your that confident in your new packs send me a two cell and I will go buy a 150a eagle tree and do a discharge graph for you at 100+ amps constant. Should be no sweat for your packs. I will send you the pack back when I'm done and post a real unbias graph of the data or facts if you will. I'm willing to spend the $100+ on a setup to end this crap once and for all. So what do you say? Can I prove your packs are what you say they are or am I gonna get blown off like we've been for a while waiting to see proof. Trust me when I say if they will stand up to what I'm gonna thow at em they are worth their salt. I've tested for cc before and love doing it. Let me know. I would love to just see what we are really dealing with. Unfortunately you guys burned me three years ago on a six cell pack and I will not buy from you again unless your new packs can deliver. So make me a customer again.

[hemiblas]

Hey Brandon, How about proving that video wrong. How about providing the graphs you promised 6 months ago to prove him wrong.

[josh9mille]

It will never happen guys, Brandon and the rest of the MA crew are nothing but scam artists. I am not sure how they sleep at night. I mean I know that Jason and Brandon are just doing and saying as they are told, but it is getting way beyond ridiculous. Austin needs to be put away with the likes of Bernie Madoff.

[TexasSP]

So Brandon, it's okay so Maxamps advertises all over the web and when threads and posts get pulled on said sites that do not favor Maxamps it's okay? However, one video by a guy known in the community to be straight and honest is illegitimate because some other battery manufacturer advertises on his site?

Let's see Chris at cheapbatterypacks.com also did some tests with your packs against his and others and yours came out on bottom. He was even nice enough not to show the name of Maxamps on the packs he tested. It was obvious what packs they were but never the less.

Can you even begin to address my post? Austin sure as heck couldn't, he dismissed me just like when I contacted him via phone. First I only ever got told he wasn't available and I had to leave a message. Then he would never call me back. Finally I get told that he said he would only offer a small discount on new packs being as my brand new packs failed. So since Austin himself refused to take care of me the customer, I go to the web and warn others about Maxamps.

I have run just about every brand out there and I will put a Gensace pack up against one of yours any day of the week.

As for people complaining about your product, search the freaking internet, it's every where. I can't tell you how many times I have been at a local hobby shop and seen puffed Maxamps packs as well. How dense can you possibly be?????

So you may wonder how long people like us here can go on huh? You may think or accuse us of beating a dead horse. But the fact remains as long as you sell over priced junk and flat out lie in your marketing campaigns that horse is far from dead. As for me I will beat this drum until a) Maxamps starts being honest and reduces their prices or actually provides packs with the quality to go with the price or b) Maxamps goes out of business.

As for you have a nice day and enjoy bedding down with all of your lies and dishonesty.

[JERRY2KONE]

Man it is hot as hell in here. You can feel the anger reading these posts. So Brandon do you think this is just a bunch of people who are out to get Maxamps? I think not. It reads to me like a bunch of supportive R/C guys who have had some bad experiences with Maxamps and want to make sure that others in our hobby do not get burned by the same BS they have. You can make this whole thing go away by simply providing unbiased testing of your cells and packs, and also showing comparitive testing of competitive packs from other suppliers. We all love this hobby and try to help each otther out whenever possible. Your customer support has been nothing less than disapointing to say it nicely. And this is a perfect example of that attitude, because you just have not provided any sort of testing examples worth a crap. If you advertise 150C than you need to post a graph that shows one of these packs doing just that. Posting a graph at half that amperage is just plain condisending. So the reason people are getting even more angry about your tactics is because you refuse to show the truth. Even if you tested and showed a lessor level and changed your advertising at least we would see honesty on your part. Up to now it has been all smoke and mirrors.

[lincpimp]

Ok, this thread has had 39,500 views. And there are around 19,000 members of this forum. So it can be infered that just about everyone on this forum has seem this thread.

And how many people have thrown up some positive experiences about maxamps? 2 or 3? I do not feel like reading all 49 pages, but it is mainly negative. So out of that many people we have all had issues with MA? Or decided that MA did not deserve out money cause of what we have read and heard from our friends? That is alot of people, I wonder how MA sales look these days?

So lets go back to the beginning of Maxamps. I was deep into 10th scale brushless with my then brand new mamba max esc and feigao s can motor. I was using tenergy nimhs, and getting them to work ok. But then I got a 4000mah 2s ?c lipo from Maxamps (I helped put together the inital order for the lhs so they could be a dealer, we had to buy 1500 bucks worth of product, and about 4 of us did just that) and that lipo really woke up that feiga/MM setup.

I was hooked, lipo was the way to go. I bought an ICE and a hyperion external charge thru balancer. I bet I bought 12-20 maxamps packs, pretty much every mah option they had. Even the 10000mah packs. All of them save for the 2100 cells puffed with less than 20 cycles and at way less load than any of the comparable spec hyperion,elite, flightpower, thunderpower, neupower, polyrc, and polyquest packs I have owned. The 3000 packs were barely useable with a roto start.

I have owned and operated more than 200 packs, and have worked on at least 200 more. I have had anywhere from 6 to 10 chargers and had then cycling, and balancing packs 24/7 for at least 2 yrs. I was around for the turnigy/zippy revolution too. I have bought the best escs and motors, and loaded them up with big heavy vehicles geared for stupid speeds. I once had 10rc cars in my hobby room, and have spent 10s of thousands on this hobby.

And the whole time, maxamps have charged more for lipos that performed worse than anything else out there. Nothing I could find had a worse power to price ratio. I looked. I have read reviews, talked to industry leaders, and even cornered lipo mfg reps to get info.

Another thing I noticed, take the hobby city lipos. They were a bit questionable at the beginning, but they got their act together and uped the qc while pumping out better, lighter, higher spec cells that actually did what the labels said. And they did it cheap. And they cornered the market in that price range. Near the end of my lipo repair days i saw alot less zippies that had failed, and mainly saw physically damaged packs to reconfigure. MAS nver moved with the times, they continued to hock their outdated packs with new stickers and big shiny ads in the rc rags. They got into crawling big (figured their packs might survive in the lower draw crawling enviorment?) but the zippies outdid them handily. Then they jumped on the vxl bandwagon, and sould 8000mah packs that could get a rustler past 70, for 300 bucks or something crazy like that. The whole truck cost 400 with a radio... And people bought the packs... Shiny mag ads apparently work on some of us.

I took maxmaps lipos apart(more than 100 of them). Their copper tabs were just crimped to the stock al tabs on the cell. Their soldering was no better than the chinese stuff. Nothing there to indicate those packs were matched (and seeing how bad they went out of balance I know they were not).

Maxamps got in when any lipo could make a setup 10 times better, but they did not keep up with the power demands of the brushless market. And they have continually lied and pushed out BS about their products.

This my personal opinion, and I would consider that I know what I am talking about.

Anyone want to guess what I run in my rcs? The sky lipos from hobbyparts. They work great, and the prices cannot be beat.

I can see that MA have pushed alot of marketing money into the rc business. But they got it in a dishonest way, even from me. A flashy sticker and promise of the best wil only last so long, ask the current pres how that is working out for him...

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Anyone want to guess what I run in my rcs? The sky lipos from hobbyparts. They work great, and the prices cannot be beat.

Same here. I discovered them while looking for a 4s pack for my crawler. I needed something tight and small with around 800-1200 mah. The sky's fit the bill perfectly and were 12 bucks!!! I ordered two to try out and didn't expect much. Now I have had them for almost a year and they have been flawless. I have ordered many more since.

[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

I once had 10rc cars in my hobby room, and have spent 10s of thousands on this hobby.
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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

BUT only 10 R/C's, I think not. More like 1,000.

I'm with ya Jerry - I've seen the pictures.....had to be @1000.....me thinks that once James gets to the last finger, he's done counting!

I've never owned a Maxamps pack. I did purchase my Hyperion charger through them - but only because they were close enough to get it to me the next day (must have been some kind of dire emergency). But even that purchase ended up badly - they did not hook me up with the correct balance taps even when I told them specifically what I was charging - I believe it was A123 cells. I do use Maxamps as a "tool" when visiting hobby shops. I'll ask them what packs they recommend, and if its Maxamps, I immediately know who I'm dealing with.

We are not going to get the information from them that we desire. Obviously, it would be bad for their business. End of story.

[slimthelineman]

He he linc you so funny. Brandon says I can't let other people tell me what to think. But doesn't that mean I shouldn't listen to him either? The sad part is it doesn't take a lipo expert like yourself to figure out the ma packs are boo boo. Nicely put though. The best part of it all is somehow ma figured out how to buy higher rated cells than the industry leaders in lipos...... So they say. But there we go again. That's what somebody says not shows/proves however you want to put it. Recently went the the neu site and their packs are much cheaper now(close to turnigy prices) and they have always had discharge graphs. My personal fav lipos on the market too. But that's just my opinion and what I say.

[lutach]

Hey Linc, wake Brandon up on how Austin and MA left this forum. Austin did make a brief comeback, but he got his puppet called Brandon doing an even worst job. I'll bet even if MA decides to start telling the truth and drop the price about their products, people will still have trouble trusting MA after all of this. Brandon, tell Austin to just close the garage doors and stick with selling tacos and burritos.