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09.22.2010, 09:33 PM

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Ditto on this, chasing a waterproof jobby for the Summit, as it is my stock ESC / Dewalt Motor pulls the same sort of amps on take off w/ 4s Lipo that the Savage Flux did (130 amps)
Define "waterproof"


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No, you couldn't run those motors, because they have a diameter over 36mm...

A mabuchi 540 size motor is 36mm diameter and 55mm length... and that's defined as the MAXIMUM allowable dimension for ROAR modified.

Lehner XL is longer than 53mm too...

Those are motor sizes, not rotor sizes.
I agree on the neus, but the lehner motors are legal. Are you counting the wires and shaft? If so maybe you are right, but the can itself is 44mm long for the XL
http://www.lehner-motoren.com/basicxl/

The XXL is longer by 5 mm's

and 44mm long on the 1920
http://www.lehner-motoren.com/1920/

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8.8.4 “05” Size Dimensions:
8.8.4.1 Can:
Overall maximum diameter is 36.02mm measured at whatever point yields the
maximum dimension, excluding solder tabs, screw heads or lead wires. Maximum
length is 53.00mm measured from the mounting face of the motor to the furthest most
point of the end bell, not including solder tabs, lead wires or original manufacturer’s
logo or name. Motor mounting holes must be on 1.00- inch (25.40mm) centers.
the only thing keeping the lehners i mentioned from being legal is the machined logo on the endbell. Will your have a logo on the endbell?


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I agree on the neus, but the lehner motors are legal. Are you counting the wires and shaft? If so maybe you are right, but the can itself is 44mm long for the XL
http://www.lehner-motoren.com/basicxl/

The XXL is longer by 5 mm's

and 44mm long on the 1920
http://www.lehner-motoren.com/1920/

According to the ROAR rule book



the only thing keeping the lehners i mentioned from being legal is the machined logo on the endbell. Will your have a logo on the endbell?
Yes, you are right.

Our logo will be laser etched on the endbell, just like our 1515 motors.

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09.22.2010, 10:01 PM

Thanks Patrick, I hadn't got one of your newer motors, yet, so wasn't sure if you had the logo on them. can't wait to try these out on my T4

I still run my original 4600 CM36 motor with a MM, runs like a champ 3+ years old


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09.22.2010, 11:03 PM

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Define "waterproof"
I guess able to survive a dunking in fresh water. Much like the VXL, EVX-2 ESC's etc.


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09.23.2010, 09:41 AM

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I guess able to survive a dunking in fresh water. Much like the VXL, EVX-2 ESC's etc.
Sealed case on the ESC that will keep water out. Not looking for a warranty claim statement. Water spray from tires will put a coat of water over the entire inside of the truck. Occasionally hit puddles too...


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Sealed case on the ESC that will keep water out. Not looking for a warranty claim statement. Water spray from tires will put a coat of water over the entire inside of the truck. Occasionally hit puddles too...
read "Occasionally hit ditches with 2ft of water in them."

   
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09.23.2010, 10:17 AM

I know alot of traxxas forum kiddies would love a waterproof BL esc- a revised MMM case with some well placed grommets ( for wires ) and gaskets ( between case halves and around a revised heatsink design ) would work quite well I reckon- same principle as slapping plastidip around the the base of the heatsink on the old evx2- so long as the heatsink is exposed it can shed heat, the rest of the esc stays in its sealed case...
   
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09.23.2010, 10:45 AM

Waterproof is decent and sometimes nice to have. I would appreciate a WP system....


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I will not run my rc's when its wet out, even my VXL which was claimed waterproof. So the water proof feature is not important to me


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09.23.2010, 06:52 PM

I have to say that running my VXL rustler when its raining is really awesome... the drifts on asphalt are amazing.... the mud flying when off roading is spectacular...


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i would absolutely love to see a waterproof version and im 100% sure it will sell like crazy
   
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09.23.2010, 08:40 PM

im with crazyjr above, even if i owned waterproof electronics i would not run in the rain. nevermind destroying a speedo, how about destroying bearings and other pricey important componets with the water? sure you could disassemble the entire car and drown it in WD but why?
   
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im with crazyjr above, even if i owned waterproof electronics i would not run in the rain. nevermind destroying a speedo, how about destroying bearings and other pricey important componets with the water? sure you could disassemble the entire car and drown it in WD but why?

Same reason I dont have a problem sending my flux off a ramp at 50mph. FUN!!! I expect to have to fix or repair daily. Other reason is that we only have about 3 months of the year when its not wet to some degree - need a rig to run when I dont want to put the high end stuff in the moisture.


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Same reason I dont have a problem sending my flux off a ramp at 50mph. FUN!!! I expect to have to fix or repair daily. Other reason is that we only have about 3 months of the year when its not wet to some degree - need a rig to run when I dont want to put the high end stuff in the moisture.
Should have gotten a Ford then, Sorry couldn't resist. But i do not run my stuff in the wet

EDIT; I'm a dodge man myself, wish i had a diesel


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