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Yeah, lets see the butt end!

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yah i can get you that deal. just u got to pay for shipping. i well get some pics for you tomorrow.
   
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yah i can get you that deal. just u got to pay for shipping. i well get some pics for you tomorrow.
Excellant Dr Kros. I appreciate that. Not a problem on the shipping.

I can get some side by side comparison with the AXI this way.
   
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I took the E maxx out for a run again today on 4S. 4S is perfect for this. Motor temps are in range, ESC is cool, Lipos are cool.

A couple of guys at work are getting into the hobby. I plan to run them with this setup.

One guy just bought a new T maxx 2.5 and the other is picking up one of the new E maxx's tomorrow.

I'm not gonna show them how this one runs until they get their's out. LOL

It's gonna wax their butt.
   
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yah i think it does have the 3 screw holes in the endbell
   
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Just a thought, how about a pair of them, since they are using the same spur you may be able to wire them to the same esc. Griffinru did it and I have a pair of aveox motors that i wanted to wire to the same esc, but could not figure out how to time them the same. Someone recently posted to hook up a battery to two of the leads on each motor and they would be timed the same.
   
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Just a thought, how about a pair of them, since they are using the same spur you may be able to wire them to the same esc. Griffinru did it and I have a pair of aveox motors that i wanted to wire to the same esc, but could not figure out how to time them the same. Someone recently posted to hook up a battery to two of the leads on each motor and they would be timed the same.

That's very possible. I might try that. It would work with much higher gearing then for more top speed. Use the 25 tooth pinions with a 36 tooth Revo spur. Hmmmmmmm..............

Dr Kros, I want the 4 turn.

In comparing the internal resistence values:

AXI 2826/8 is 30 mohm's

The KMS 2826/4 turn is listed as 64 mohm's.

If I were to speculate, my guess is the KMS is a Wye wind. This might make it even better than the AXI. I wonder what kind of magnets it uses?

Another thought here is, I bet the AXI endbells would fit the KMS stator assembly perfectly.
   
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You sure about that resistance? This page lists it as 32!

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/108510.asp
   
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The KMS resistence value at that website must be wrong, another site I found lists it as being 32 mohm's.

The AXI 2826/8 shows 2.8 amps no load at 10v

The KMS shows 3.2 amps no load at 10v.

Something isn't right about these figures.

Greater amp draw usually means higher kv and lower resistence.
   
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Aaaah, see that prop adapter in the picture?

It does have the 3 holes in the endbell. There's a pretty good chance the fan will fit it.
   
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I guess testing will be in order.

Is metalman using a kms motor in his direct to diff drive mt2?
   
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he is also using one of these motors in is 4x4 rock crawler
   
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I replaced the Quark 125 amp Monster Pro in this setup with the Mamba Max ESC.

I haven't had a chance to really put it to the test yet. We have another ice storm in progress. Ugh! LOL

I have to hand it to Castle. Just with Low Speed Carpet Running, Startups ARE MUCH BETTER! The first low speed throttle step on the controller will start great with NO cogging and move really slow without stuttering. Or WOT will go wheels up on the blast off.

It appears to me they got it right.

I love the PC link. Wouldn't High Timing and High Start Power be best for this setup?
   
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I replaced the Quark 125 amp Monster Pro in this setup with the Mamba Max ESC.

I haven't had a chance to really put it to the test yet. We have another ice storm in progress. Ugh! LOL

I have to hand it to Castle. Just with Low Speed Carpet Running, Startups ARE MUCH BETTER! The first low speed throttle step on the controller will start great with NO cogging and move really slow without stuttering. Or WOT will go wheels up on the blast off.

It appears to me they got it right.

I love the PC link. Wouldn't High Timing and High Start Power be best for this setup?

This is good to hear, I would think that high start power should help, I have the MM set to that way for my Plett maxximum in the crt.5

Not sure about the timing though, do outrunner require more timing advance?

I would have thought that since they run slow they would need less timing.
   
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This is good to hear, I would think that high start power should help, I have the MM set to that way for my Plett maxximum in the crt.5

Not sure about the timing though, do outrunner require more timing advance?

I would have thought that since they run slow they would need less timing.
The KMS equal. says 20-30 degrees of timing. MM only goes up to 20, so that's where I put it.

I pmed Metalman about a possible "hook-up" on the KMS motors.

I guess the lower kv versus inrunner motors doesn't make a difference. I know the phase switching via esc is alot higher per revolution. From what I understand, the timing is just the precise point of phase switch in the rotation.
   
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