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mikey09120 10.27.2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryu James (Post 226661)
Double what i paid for what? the 1/5 car as it is? or the finished brushless project?

haha. i think i get it. you got it for free so you paid $0. multiply by two and you get 0. hell pay $0 for it.(before brushless) if thats not the joke then....:oops:oops

TexasSP 10.27.2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by coolrunnings (Post 226745)
Attachment 5716

Attachment 5717

Attachment 5718 Heres a few shots of my baja ready for the master to start in on.:diablo:

I like it so far. Getting rid of all the colored aluminum sure helps the look of the baja for me. I like a little touch of color such as you have with the shocks but too much just get's to me.

What motor is going to power this beast?

coolrunnings 10.27.2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 226774)
I like it so far. Getting rid of all the colored aluminum sure helps the look of the baja for me. I like a little touch of color such as you have with the shocks but too much just get's to me.

What motor is going to power this beast?

I just got off the phone with mike and he's going to use a 2215 2y 750kv neu motor on 9 or 10s with a big mgm esc like maybe a 145.32 which will most likely be extreme overkill on the power and will have to be dialed down a bit. As for the baja itself your right all that color looks funny...I see tons of baja's on the baja forum and they have so much color it's not funny. I didnt want something that looked like a float in a gay pride parade. I didnt really consider what color I was using I just went with the best parts money could buy and it just looks the way it looks you know....cool huh? It has darksoul axel extenders for an extra 1'' of width and a custom carbon fiber chassis from the UK and also has rpm a arms front and rear stainless screws carbon fiber parts everywhere hostile tires nutted hinge pins and a jr 8711 400oz torque steering servo ....the list goes on and on. When Mike is done mastering this thing its going to rc car action mag for a full photo shoot / bash test and artical.

othello 10.28.2008 05:45 AM

There are already a few 1:5 onroad car conversions in Germany. Like for example this one here: Evo 04. This one uses a 3040/12 (875kv) motor paired with a 32.170 Schulze on 8s2p Lipo (12000mAh) -> around 26000rpm. You can find a few videos on youtube and myvideo. I also saw a few conversions with Lehner 2250 or 2280 motors. If you compare those motors wheightwise with Neu Motors you should have a good match for your car. An MGM 12545-3 ESC should also do the trick. Good luck with your project.

coolrunnings 10.28.2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by othello (Post 226882)
There are already a few 1:5 onroad car conversions in Germany. Like for example this one here: Evo 04. This one uses a 3040/12 (875kv) motor paired with a 32.170 Schulze on 8s2p Lipo (12000mAh) -> around 26000rpm. You can find a few videos on youtube and myvideo. I also saw a few conversions with Lehner 2250 or 2280 motors. If you compare those motors wheightwise with Neu Motors you should have a good match for your car. An MGM 12545-3 ESC should also do the trick. Good luck with your project.

I watched the vid pretty cool conversion, but I must say it was very slow. If my baja isnt faster than that I'll tear the electronics out and stuff the gas engine back in it and issue a public apology to every single member of the baja forum.:oops:

VintageMA 10.28.2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by othello (Post 226882)
There are already a few 1:5 onroad car conversions in Germany. Like for example this one here: Evo 04. This one uses a 3040/12 (875kv) motor paired with a 32.170 Schulze on 8s2p Lipo (12000mAh) -> around 26000rpm. You can find a few videos on youtube and myvideo. I also saw a few conversions with Lehner 2250 or 2280 motors. If you compare those motors wheightwise with Neu Motors you should have a good match for your car. An MGM 12545-3 ESC should also do the trick. Good luck with your project.

Ya know - I picked up a Lehner 2250/12 (987KV) used but in excellent condition earlier in the year with the intent of a large scale project in the 8S- 12S range but seeing that LMT 3040 and Mike using a Neu BAM I am having my doubts it would workout well on 1/5 scale.

lutach 10.28.2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VintageMA (Post 227014)
Ya know - I picked up a Lehner 2250/12 (987KV) used but in excellent condition earlier in the year with the intent of a large scale project in the 8S- 12S range but seeing that LMT 3040 and Mike using a Neu BAM I am having my doubts it would workout well on 1/5 scale.

The 2250/12 will work. It was used in another very fast 1/5 scale in Germany.

http://www.onefive.de/e-power/prototyp_05_01.jpg

VintageMA 10.28.2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 227025)
The 2250/12 will work. It was used in another very fast 1/5 scale in Germany.

http://www.onefive.de/e-power/prototyp_05_01.jpg

Thanks Lutach - I guess all is not lost. I really like the way these guys have setup their battery trays with the carbon fiber - very neat setup. Props to anyone who can put that together - I just don't have mechanical skills to do anything like that.

Ryu James - good look with this project and post lots of pics - I will be very curious to see how everything comes together.

Ryu James 10.29.2008 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by coolrunnings (Post 226745)
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Attachment 5718 Heres a few shots of my baja ready for the master to start in on.:diablo:

your Baja is a stunner!! love all that carbon fiber. be sure to post some pics when Mike gets done.

Ryu James 10.29.2008 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by othello (Post 226882)
There are already a few 1:5 onroad car conversions in Germany. Like for example this one here: Evo 04. This one uses a 3040/12 (875kv) motor paired with a 32.170 Schulze on 8s2p Lipo (12000mAh) -> around 26000rpm. You can find a few videos on youtube and myvideo. I also saw a few conversions with Lehner 2250 or 2280 motors. If you compare those motors wheightwise with Neu Motors you should have a good match for your car. An MGM 12545-3 ESC should also do the trick. Good luck with your project.

thanks, nice looking builds. i wish this 1/5 i had was a FG. unfortunately it is a Smartech, a cheaper brand. but i guess i cant complain considering the price i got it for.:wink:

Ryu James 10.29.2008 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VintageMA (Post 227112)
Thanks Lutach - I guess all is not lost. I really like the way these guys have setup their battery trays with the carbon fiber - very neat setup. Props to anyone who can put that together - I just don't have mechanical skills to do anything like that.

Ryu James - good look with this project and post lots of pics - I will be very curious to see how everything comes together.

i will be sure to post lots of pics but it might be a couple of weeks before i begin work on it now cuz i just got an 1/8 scale Schumacher in the mail yesterday that i have been waiting for for 2 months. i have already bought all the parts and stuff to convert it and so i am going to build this one first. it has a 3 speed trans so i am hoping to make this 100mph+ car. should be fun. it is electric already so doesnt need any converting....just some major improving. here are a couple of pics. it is the Shcumacher Menace GTRe. when this one is done i will start on the 1/5 and be sure to post lots of pics. thanks Team for all the pics and info on 1/5 conversion. sounds like i need to seriously look at the 2200 series Neu motors. would love to see any other 1/5 stuff out there. when will we see the first Baja 5T conversion? anyone, anyone????
<a href="http://s471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/ryujames/?action=view&current=DSC00471.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/ryujames/DSC00471.jpg" border="0" alt="menace gtr side"></a>
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<a href="http://s471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/ryujames/?action=view&current=DSC00472.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/ryujames/DSC00472.jpg" border="0" alt="3 spd and motor"></a>
<a href="http://s471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/ryujames/?action=view&current=DSC00474.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/ryujames/DSC00474.jpg" border="0" alt="3 spd trans"></a>

TDC57 10.29.2008 01:30 AM

:gasp: wow DUDE.. Killer!..:intello: I can wait to see it all together..

How fast are you planning on running it ?? and how long do you antisapte before you'll have it done ?? :neutral:

Ok so you shooting for 55K out a 60K motor running 12s and the bad boy weighs 26 lbs that's insane / tons of mass behind it. Please post some pics when you wrap it around a telephone pole doing what 100 mph.. :lol::lol::lol:

Now you just need to strip it down, clean it up and spend a lot of money!! (oohh how i know that feeling).. :yes:

Another killer build / project for YOU.. two thumbs up.. :great::great:




P.S.
keep us updated Sir and Thanks for sharing the lastest and greatest money pit of your's.. :wink:

lincpimp 10.29.2008 01:44 AM

Good luck with the GTRe. I had one and thought it could do with quite a bit of work to be competent for high speed. The center brace limints battery height, mine had alot of drag in the belt setup, and the barkes just did not work well. Plus that big electronics box is kinda dumb, it would be better to have a battery tray on that side too. And you motor choice will be a bit limited due to the special 3 gear pinion with 1/8 bore. Maybe get a medusa 50mm with 1/8 shaft, but I think a larger motor would be required to run 100mph...

Sounds like an interesting project, I have only seen a few GTPe floating around, I had mine well over a year ago. It was brand new when I got it.

Ryu James 10.29.2008 01:49 AM

all i can say is TRUE, TRUE, TRUE!! :lol:

true that its lots of money:lol:
true that i will wrap it around a telephone pole:lol:
and true to all the other shit you said too!:lol:

here is the plan: 60mph car finished in the next 4-6 weeks. i would like to say it would be done sooner than that but just being realistic when i consider the money and time.


does anyone here know where to get a 8mm shaft pinion gear that will mesh with these 1/5 scale gears?

Ryu James 10.29.2008 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 227148)
Good luck with the GTRe. I had one and thought it could do with quite a bit of work to be competent for high speed. The center brace limints battery height, mine had alot of drag in the belt setup, and the barkes just did not work well. Plus that big electronics box is kinda dumb, it would be better to have a battery tray on that side too. And you motor choice will be a bit limited due to the special 3 gear pinion with 1/8 bore. Maybe get a medusa 50mm with 1/8 shaft, but I think a larger motor would be required to run 100mph...

Sounds like an interesting project, I have only seen a few GTPe floating around, I had mine well over a year ago. It was brand new when I got it.

hey pimp,
so do you still have your GTRe? i have heard that these are pretty rare. at least that is what the guy told me that i bought it from. but i noticed you can still get them on the schumacher site.

here is what i am going with. i have looked at all this stuff and it all fits pretty well.

Mamba Max ESC
Castle 5700kv motor (1/10 of course)
losi 3200mah 3cell lipo (would like to run a thunder power but wont fit....maybe with some mod i can make it work)
2 jr9100s servos
many alum and titanium schumacher upgrade parts

as for the 100 mph you may be right. many of these 1/10 brushless motors push the RTR trucks at 70 mph out of the box so i figured that this GTRe with the 3 speed would do 100mph+ with those extra gears.
i assumed that 3rd gear would be very tall and that 2nd gear would be similar to the gearing of the single geared RTRs that do 70mph.
well, after looking at the gearing it appears that 3rd on this GTR is about the same as the RTR stock pinion and spur setups like the Rustler and the Losi speedT. anyway, i may just have to scrap the 3 speed trans and come up with something different. will just have to wait and see. But i know these motors could do 100mph with the right gearing. if my Rustler VXL had a 2nd gear....whoa.


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