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crazyjr 06.19.2007 02:06 PM

Looks like Lipo really is the future according to Novak
 
I found this this morning, http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...d.php?t=239086, has cut off for 2s and 4s lipo, depending on how you wire it

ClodMaxx 06.19.2007 02:34 PM

hmmm... funny, i've been thinking of using my 6.5 esc with my lehner to see how that combo works together. :005: my hv system is just laying around as a spare system - i may have to solder the 2 together and see how it works.

nice that the new esc comes with the lipo cutoff.

crazyjr 06.19.2007 03:51 PM

won't work, the novak is sensored the lehner is sensorless

Serum 06.19.2007 04:13 PM

Is it me or is it just the old hvmaxx controller with an external fan and an external LVC included? (novak 5471)

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPGN1&P=7

ClodMaxx 06.19.2007 04:14 PM

i thought i've read before that sensored systems can run a sensorless motor - just not the other way around.... ?

Serum 06.19.2007 04:22 PM

other way around. a sensor based motor can be used on a sensorless controller, since you are not using the sensor wires. A sensor based controller doesn't use the EMF to determine where the n/s poles of the rotor is located, it uses a HALL sensor.

ClodMaxx 06.19.2007 04:23 PM

ahhhh, ok. thanks guys.

sven 06.19.2007 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
other way around. a sensor based motor can be used on a sensorless controller, since you are not using the sensor wires. A sensor based controller doesn't use the EMF to determine where the n/s poles of the rotor is located, it uses a HALL sensor.

Just for clarification, a Novak SS motor could be used with a Mamba Max ESC?

I am curious about this because I have a Novak motor that I would like to use, but the ESC does not work. And I would like to try the motor with my MM.

Does anyone have any experience with this, or is it just a common knowledge thing?

crazyjr 06.19.2007 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Is it me or is it just the old hvmaxx controller with an external fan and an external LVC included? (novak 5471)

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPGN1&P=7

thanks, I didn't see that the cutoff was seperate

crazyjr 06.19.2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClodMaxx
i thought i've read before that sensored systems can run a sensorless motor - just not the other way around.... ?

the only esc's i can recall being able to do that with each in their element is the traxxas velineon and the GM brushless esc, but not sure on the GM one

skellyo 06.19.2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sven
Just for clarification, a Novak SS motor could be used with a Mamba Max ESC?

I am curious about this because I have a Novak motor that I would like to use, but the ESC does not work. And I would like to try the motor with my MM.

Does anyone have any experience with this, or is it just a common knowledge thing?

You can run it, but it's possible that you'll have problems with cogging on it. For some reason, most Novaks are not real happy on MM ESC's from what I've read. However, there is a very long thread on rctech.net where a guy has been using a Novak 4.5R motor on a MM ESC for a while now with mixed results. It certainly won't hurt to try it. If you try and it doesn't work well, before you give up, be sure you exhaust all the options in programming as far as start power/timing/punch control.

BrianG 06.19.2007 08:07 PM

Are the Novak motors built the same way as the Neu's? Are the symptoms similar?

sven 06.19.2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo
You can run it, but it's possible that you'll have problems with cogging on it. For some reason, most Novaks are not real happy on MM ESC's from what I've read. However, there is a very long thread on rctech.net where a guy has been using a Novak 4.5R motor on a MM ESC for a while now with mixed results. It certainly won't hurt to try it. If you try and it doesn't work well, before you give up, be sure you exhaust all the options in programming as far as start power/timing/punch control.


Thanks for the info, I will check out that thread and give it a shot.

NovakTwo 06.19.2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sven
Just for clarification, a Novak SS motor could be used with a Mamba Max ESC?

I am curious about this because I have a Novak motor that I would like to use, but the ESC does not work. And I would like to try the motor with my MM.

Does anyone have any experience with this, or is it just a common knowledge thing?

Sven, you could return your old Novak esc and exchange it for an XBR (rmf) for $49.00.

service replacement options

skellyo 06.19.2007 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sven
Thanks for the info, I will check out that thread and give it a shot.

Here's the thread I was talking about:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...&page=43&pp=30


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