help with timing on a Medusa 36-60-2000 v2

[ogrfre01]

I have a Losi 8ight with:

-Esc: CC Mamba max
-Motor: Medusa 36-60-2000 v2
-Battery: Polyquest 4S 5000mah
-Gearing: 14/48
-CC BEC
-RCM battery tray and motormount

As the Medusa seems quite simular to the Neu, im woundering about the settings for the timing, should it be "0"? I now have it on default (10) and Punch control at (70) start power is default (Low)..... if i change the timing to 0, should i change something else? like punch control? start power?

timing at 0?? i thought it was like highest, high, normal, low, lowest.

i always put my to the lowest cause i never raced but those where 9xl motors.

[ogrfre01]

Originally Posted by drkros3

timing at 0?? i thought it was like highest, high, normal, low, lowest.

i always put my to the lowest cause i never raced but those where 9xl motors.

0=Lowest......

Originally Posted by ogrfre01

I have a Losi 8ight with:

-Esc: CC Mamba max
-Motor: Medusa 36-60-2000 v2
-Battery: Polyquest 4S 5000mah
-Gearing: 14/48
-CC BEC
-RCM battery tray and motormount

As the Medusa seems quite simular to the Neu, im woundering about the settings for the timing, should it be "0"? I now have it on default (10) and Punch control at (70) start power is default (Low)..... if i change the timing to 0, should i change something else? like punch control? start power?

I run my setups with timing at 0, increasing the timing increases performance with a brushless motor very little, but increases heat alot....its not a good trade off, punch control at 0 and in the Castle SW, I adjust the throttle curve instead of using the punch control

[ogrfre01]

azjc: thanks for the reply, but what about "start power"? (I just tried to set timing to lowest (0) and all cogging went away)

Originally Posted by ogrfre01

azjc: thanks for the reply, but what about "start power"? (I just tried to set timing to lowest (0) and all cogging went away)

I have start power low also...my Neu 1515/2.5d has all the power you might want, and I am thinking about adding a 2s pack in series with my 6s to give me me a 8s kick in the pants....

[ogrfre01]

Originally Posted by azjc

I have start power low also...my Neu 1515/2.5d has all the power you might want, and I am thinking about adding a 2s pack in series with my 6s to give me me a 8s kick in the pants....

8S
I am really pleased with my medusa.... i seems to have simular power to the Neu and doesnt run to hot either....

[killjoyken]

I just got my Medusa 36-50-3300 and the instructions (yes I always read them!) say for best efficiency, your esc should be setup with 8-10 degrees advanced. Thoughts?

[Matthew_Armeni]

Originally Posted by killjoyken

I just got my Medusa 36-50-3300 and the instructions (yes I always read them!) say for best efficiency, your esc should be setup with 8-10 degrees advanced. Thoughts?

It's funny that you mention that because tow weeks ago I was racing with my 60mm 1300 with unknown ESC settings in my 8ight truggy. It ran great and cool all day and I won the sportsman A-main. When I checked the settings later that week my motor timing was set to 10, punch 30%, and everything else to the lowest. I changed the timing back to zero and went to practice at the same track. I was seeing temps on avgerage about 5-15 degrees hotter than before, but driving it felt the same. It was a different day and I can't say if the ambient temps were the same but it made me think, is a little timing ok? It definitely did not hurt my runtime. I was running a Hyperion 6s 4250 18c pack, it was a 12min main, no warm up laps, just drove over the loop to register and then sat by the grid. After the race I charged my pack and put 2390mah back in. I think I'll put it back to 10 and see what it does tomorrow, another race, same track.

[TexasSP]

Interesting find for sure. It would be nice to see it experimented with more to verify the results.

[bdebde]

Originally Posted by Matthew_Armeni

It's funny that you mention that because tow weeks ago I was racing with my 60mm 1300 with unknown ESC settings in my 8ight truggy. It ran great and cool all day and I won the sportsman A-main. When I checked the settings later that week my motor timing was set to 10, punch 30%, and everything else to the lowest. I changed the timing back to zero and went to practice at the same track. I was seeing temps on avgerage about 5-15 degrees hotter than before, but driving it felt the same. It was a different day and I can't say if the ambient temps were the same but it made me think, is a little timing ok? It definitely did not hurt my runtime. I was running a Hyperion 6s 4250 18c pack, it was a 12min main, no warm up laps, just drove over the loop to register and then sat by the grid. After the race I charged my pack and put 2390mah back in. I think I'll put it back to 10 and see what it does tomorrow, another race, same track.

My Lehners seem to run hotter when timing is 0 or 5 deg, cooler when 10 degree. I guess I will have to try them at 15 deg, that is timing used by Lehner for all their specs.

[sikeston34m]

For timing, it's best to go with the manufacturer's recommendations.

Multi-pole motors like more timing than do inrunner 2 pole type motors.

There's really no comparison between the two in the timing realm.

What applies to one, doesn't necessarily apply to the other. It's not Apples to Apples.

[killjoyken]

Found this on Neu's website:

5) For most uses the low advance setting is best—motors have better efficiency. “Y” wind motors can use medium advance for a little more power or speed. “D” wind motors should always use low advance as there is no improvement with higher advance settings.