Question about 1717 and "Neu" licensing - RC-Monster Forums

simplechamp · 03:16 AM

On another forum people were moaning a bit about how the new 1717 wasn't listed as an official "Neu-Castle" motor, and what that meant. I told them that I had no doubt that the quality was just as good as any other Castle or Neu-Castle product, but not everyone felt the same way. From the outside (at least in pictures) they seem to look identical in design, which got me a bit curious.

So anyone know what the deal is? Is something changed about the design so that it's solely a Castle product and not licensed with the Neu brand? Again, I'm in no way questioning the integrity/quality of the 1717, Castle, or Neu, and would buy it in a heartbeat if I had the money and proper application for it. Just wanted to see why the 1717 was listed differently from the others.

bruce750i · 10:28 AM

Have a look inside my C.C. 1717 and the packaging difference.

johnrobholmes · 12.29.2009, 10:22 AM

Probably because patrick designed it himself

TexasSP · 12.29.2009, 11:33 AM

Looks like it still follows the basic neu design to me. It's definitely quality, that much is for sure.

MetalMan · 12.29.2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP

Looks like it still follows the basic neu design to me. It's definitely quality, that much is for sure.

Yeah, and Neu doesn't offer a 17 series so technically there is no need for the name recogition.

Desert Rc · 12.29.2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalMan

Yeah, and Neu doesn't offer a 17 series so technically there is no need for the name recogition.

Or royalties

RC-Monster Mike · 12.29.2009, 02:05 PM

" Yeah, and Neu doesn't offer a 17 series so technically there is no need for the name recogition. "
I agree, Travis - no doubt in my mind that it is the same old "Neu" motor technology. :)

johnrobholmes · 12.29.2009, 03:53 PM

Most likely- Castle owns the tooling for the stator plates instead of Neu. Same basic stator shape and layout though.

simplechamp · 12.29.2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalMan

Yeah, and Neu doesn't offer a 17 series so technically there is no need for the name recogition.

There is a 1700 series, but they are small, 1704 and 1706, only 4 different models, and looks like they are for planes or helis

http://www.neumotors.com/Site/1700_series.html

I didn't mean to stir the pot about quality, or who deserves royalties, etc. I just wanted to see if the design had any notable changes from the officially licensed Neu-Castle motors.

Semi Pro · 12.29.2009, 09:40 PM

quality looks great, but 45,000rpm is a kill joy

that being said, i bought one for my xxl but i wont get to run it till spring

_paralyzed_ · 12.29.2009, 11:21 PM

sounds like something from the noob forum to me. Castle's reputation is equal to Neu's in my eyes so I don't care either way.

the 45,000 rpm limit shouldn't be seen as a negative. plenty of torque to gear up.

Semi Pro · 12.30.2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_

sounds like something from the noob forum to me. Castle's reputation is equal to Neu's in my eyes so I don't care either way.

the 45,000 rpm limit shouldn't be seen as a negative. plenty of torque to gear up.

there is the problem, i cant gear up 63/26 is the best i have found

losi makes a 59 tooth spur but the motor cant get close enuf to mesh right (it hits the transmission) and i havent found a place that makes over 26T pinions in 6mm

pinkpanda3310 · 12.30.2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Semi Pro

there is the problem, i cant gear up 63/26 is the best i have found

losi makes a 59 tooth spur but the motor cant get close enuf to mesh right (it hits the transmission) and i havent found a place that makes over 26T pinions in 6mm

Your car list shows an lst w/centre diff......? With that you can gear it for speed runs.

jas21373 · 12.30.2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Semi Pro

there is the problem, i cant gear up 63/26 is the best i have found

losi makes a 59 tooth spur but the motor cant get close enuf to mesh right (it hits the transmission) and i havent found a place that makes over 26T pinions in 6mm

I brought a custom made 30t from Dan ,it was 5mm thou ,he must be able to do them in 6mm ,you would think. http://kershawdesigns.com/

lincpimp · 12.30.2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Semi Pro

there is the problem, i cant gear up 63/26 is the best i have found

losi makes a 59 tooth spur but the motor cant get close enuf to mesh right (it hits the transmission) and i havent found a place that makes over 26T pinions in 6mm

You can get the tdr colleted pinion adapter with a 6mm collet and then get a 25-30t pinion gear from rcm. Use that with the 59t spur and you will have plenty of gearing options.