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t-maxxracer32 · **mike, why dont you sell.. -** 11.24.2007, 06:23 PM

rtr brushless trucks?

like make a completed GMAXX truck and sell it. i would think it would make some money. because you dont put the trucks together untill someoen orders it. and there are PLENTY of people that would love custom work done by you. they know it will be quality, clean, and freakin awsome to look at

i just thought id throw that out there.

Serum · 11.24.2007, 06:44 PM

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i just thought id throw that out there.

Yep.. We know..

ssspconcepts · 11.24.2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Serum

Yep.. We know..

I know that Mike is always coming up with more motor mounts and other goodies for us...

Would it help if we as customers donated our old chassis from the models that he doesn't yet sell BL motor mounts & accessories? That way he could get the dimensions and make conversion kit parts for them too.

Patrick · 11.24.2007, 10:44 PM

He does build cars for people doesn't he?

ssspconcepts · 11:05 PM

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He does build cars for people doesn't he?

I assume so...I think that is where the CRT.5 chassis kit came from...there are also a lot of posts from folks that have ordered full "kits" from Mike.

I personally like the fact that he is offering more "kit" type packages (e.g., RC8, XT8, and CRT.5). As a consumer of his products, I would like to know how we can help him....

If I am posting out of turn, I apologize, but I think it would be great if Mike offered "turn key" packages that included all the mounting hardware necessary for converting a nitro vehicle to BL...similar to what he has done with the CRT.5.

aqwut · 11.24.2007, 11:23 PM

he's only one guy.. it's nice to put it together yourself.. .that's the fun part of the hobby... :) but RTR would make good business for the n()()bs... :)

ssspconcepts · 11.24.2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aqwut

he's only one guy.. it's nice to put it together yourself.. .that's the fun part of the hobby... :) but RTR would make good business for the n()()bs... :)

He is only one guy...but we are his customers and we can help. That's why I think the conversion kits...or as I termed them..."turn key" kits could be so successful...they are a happy medium. A noobie would only need to buy a 1/8 scale RTR kit, BL motor, ESC, battery and an RC Monster "turn key" kit...

I look at RC Productions and I see a lot of potential....because they sell kits that make it easy to convert to BL power systems. Mike has greater variety....all he has to do is package it the right way and he'll dominate this evolving market.

glassdoctor · 12:29 AM

I might have a buggy put together soon as a turn-key for sale, just to try it and get a new 1/8 out there. I'm going to talk to Mike about getting parts for it.

I think I can do it for a very good price... much better and much cheaper than FD for example. :)

Basic parts needed:
Mamba w/bec............@150
RCM hardened pinon....@10
Feigao XL w/heatsink...@25
RCM motor mount........@55
??? battery mount.......@40
total parts.................$280
plus battery 5000mah 4s @200

That's $480 so far, plus you need a buggy to put them in.

That's makes a grand total of $900-1000 depending on which buggy you buy.

Do you think many would buy a completely ready to run turn key buggy, if the cost was basicly a sum of the total parts?

How about $950 for a turn-key Caster Factory Pro buggy like this: http://casterracing.com/en/product_d...&productid=109
(full 7075 "king heads" type stuff... It's a Mugen knock-off that's actually faster than a Mugen on the track.)

How about an even $1000 complete with a very nice servo .10/150 oz or better..... just drop in a receiver and turn it on?

Patrick · 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by glassdoctor

Basic parts needed:
Mamba w/bec............@150
RCM hardened pinon....@10
Feigao XL w/heatsink...@25
RCM motor mount........@55
??? battery mount.......@40
total parts.................$280

You need to add the cost of the actual motor don't you, or tell me where you getting them that cheap.

glassdoctor · 11.25.2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

You need to add the cost of the actual motor don't you, or tell me where you getting them that cheap.

LOL... yeah I guess that would be good. Can you tell I was making it up as I went? ha ha

So that bumps the totals:
parts: $360
batt: $200
total: $560 plus @ $500 for a race level buggy = $1060

Now it's only missing a servo (and rx/tx of course). The Caster ZX-1R at $425 on sale direct is cheaper than most pro cars: RC8, Xray, Mugen, Losi, Kyosho etc... they are pretty much all $500-550

So throw in a nice servo and the ZX-1R is still only $500

So is $1060 too much sticker shock? I might put one together just for fun... when I have some down time this winter. (work slows and the weather sucks) I can get enough discount on a few things to cover shipping and misc costs and still probably have a few bucks left over, even selling at actual street cost of the parts. The guys at Caster are interested at this point so they are willing to work with me a bit I think. That's the only way something like this can be done.

glassdoctor · 11.25.2007, 01:03 AM

btw, what got me thinking about this is that I saw one of the new Caster cars last week and they are pretty sweet. I was very impressed looking at it.

Also it's doing very well so far in racing. At the RC Pro Series finals in Texas there was only like 3 guys running them in expert (no top level names) and two of them including my local buddy made the B main... which is very impressive. The RC8 and 8ight didn't much better and they have "name" drivers.

supralover72 · 11.25.2007, 02:02 AM

If mike did rtr's, he'd be another convert company only with less rep, so by being the one who offers the best motor mounts, he can be recognized.

Also, I get so sick of seeing rtr conversions etc. where people have no creativity or building skill just a big pocket book.

t-maxxracer32 · 11.25.2007, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by supralover72

If mike did rtr's, he'd be another convert company only with less rep, so by being the one who offers the best motor mounts, he can be recognized.

Also, I get so sick of seeing rtr conversions etc. where people have no creativity or building skill just a big pocket book.

ya that is true but it makes mike money. plus if they start selling lots of RTR bl conversion people will buy them more which will in turn get us our own BL classes.

i just think it would help the newer people get into the hobby. then when they realize how cool it is they would start making their own projects!

Hickoryhead · 11.25.2007, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ssspconcepts

He is only one guy...

I would love to see Mike do all this but SSS is correct.

Mike is only one guy. You need a couple good workers with Mike leading

to get everything we all want done.

glassdoctor · 11.25.2007, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by supralover72

Also, I get so sick of seeing rtr conversions etc. where people have no creativity or building skill just a big pocket book.

You mean that someone would be able to buy a rtr conversion... rather than piece it together? I don't think money is the issue. It's not cheap either way.

We have to get used to the fact that it's coming... there are going to be more things like the Novak kits and even out of the box electric 1/8. I don't think we should fight it or think less of a guy who wants to buy something complete or drop-in, etc.

That's the way the hobby has gone... it's dominated by rtr and pre-built cars. Electric 1/8 needs the same evolution to become mainstream.