mike, why dont you sell..

[supralover72]

If mike did rtr's, he'd be another convert company only with less rep, so by being the one who offers the best motor mounts, he can be recognized.

Also, I get so sick of seeing rtr conversions etc. where people have no creativity or building skill just a big pocket book.

[t-maxxracer32]

Originally Posted by supralover72

If mike did rtr's, he'd be another convert company only with less rep, so by being the one who offers the best motor mounts, he can be recognized.

Also, I get so sick of seeing rtr conversions etc. where people have no creativity or building skill just a big pocket book.

ya that is true but it makes mike money. plus if they start selling lots of RTR bl conversion people will buy them more which will in turn get us our own BL classes.

i just think it would help the newer people get into the hobby. then when they realize how cool it is they would start making their own projects!

[glassdoctor]

Originally Posted by supralover72

Also, I get so sick of seeing rtr conversions etc. where people have no creativity or building skill just a big pocket book.

You mean that someone would be able to buy a rtr conversion... rather than piece it together? I don't think money is the issue. It's not cheap either way.

We have to get used to the fact that it's coming... there are going to be more things like the Novak kits and even out of the box electric 1/8. I don't think we should fight it or think less of a guy who wants to buy something complete or drop-in, etc.

That's the way the hobby has gone... it's dominated by rtr and pre-built cars. Electric 1/8 needs the same evolution to become mainstream.

[squeeforever]

Originally Posted by glassdoctor

That's the way the hobby has gone... it's dominated by rtr and pre-built cars.

I hate to say it, but your right...I don't know about you, but I love build kits and actually learning about how its made and such instead of having to take it apart just to figure out how something is...

[ssspconcepts]

Originally Posted by glassdoctor

You mean that someone would be able to buy a rtr conversion... rather than piece it together? I don't think money is the issue. It's not cheap either way.

We have to get used to the fact that it's coming... there are going to be more things like the Novak kits and even out of the box electric 1/8. I don't think we should fight it or think less of a guy who wants to buy something complete or drop-in, etc.

That's the way the hobby has gone... it's dominated by rtr and pre-built cars. Electric 1/8 needs the same evolution to become mainstream.

I do agree that 1/8 scale BL RTRs are coming...and eventually they will be part of the mainstream RC industry. However, I like building my own stuff like Sqee and many of the others here...half the fun is grinding stuff to size to make it work. For me the drop in/turn key kits (like those from RC Productions, Tekno RC, and Mikes CRT.5) are the happy medium. In all honesty I think these kits would appeal to a very large consumer base because they are a happy medium for people that don't have extensive tooling/resources at home. The extent of my tooling consists of a Dremel, drill press, solder station, heat gun, and a boat load of hand tools. One of the reasons I pestered Mike so hard about coming up with a universal battery tray for my CRT was so that I can make more conversions down the road...all I need to do is buy another tray and the applicable motor mount and I am ready to go build it. I am already planning to build an Ultra GTP or DM One

[ssspconcepts]

Speaking of tooling resources...as I so notably mentioned in another thread...I really would be grateful if Santa would drop off a CNC machine for me...which one to ask for...hmmm

[JERRY2KONE]

I do believe for the average Joe it is a little intimidating to just jump right in with a build project. Most people don't have the natural mechanical ability to be able to do that off the cuff. So that is why the RTR out of the box sells so well. A lot of the guys in the RC hobbie now started with an RTR and learned from there. Some are born with the God given gift that makes build projects so much fun just to create works of art on their own, but that is just not the norm. It is obvious to see that there are a few people on here that love the builds almost as much as the driving, if not more. I love some of the creative parts that Mike comes up with, but I would not want him to build my trucks. I am sure that he would do a great job, but my, truck my build. Most of the people who would want an capable RTR probably won't want to spend the kind of cash it will take to purchase a pro racer type of vehicle that includes parts and labor. It is just unrealistic knowing how cheap most American's are. We want it cheap and fast.